Everest Beyond the Limit

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Derpeder

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Anyone else think that show was as cool as I did!!! :headbang2

I'll tell you one thing.... that may inspire some people to try climbing it. NOT ME that makes me not want to try more then anything.

I've tried Mt. Rainier twice and didn't make it either time (given the second time we got caught in a storm and had to stay at base camp). Everest is twice as tall plus 100 feet!!!!!!!
 
Very awesome show !!

If I had the time and the extra 40 grand laying around I might think about it.
 
Is this the one about the fool who left a bunch ofpeople to die so that the rest coul climb?

If so, the guy is a fool and ought to be shut down. Accordin to th internets, he's never even been to the summit.
 
RyanS;659610; said:
Is this the one about the fool who left a bunch of people to die so that the rest could climb?

If so, the guy is a fool and ought to be shut down. According to th Internets, he's never even been to the summit.

Are you talking about the man in the group who was coming down from the summit and came across another group's member dying on the mountain? Didn't you see the part where it was explained WHY they can't help people that high up on the mountain? A huge group from China had an expedition on Everest to retrieve a single body. They failed. There are a lot of dead bodies on Everest. You die in the Death Zone, you stay there.
 
newtothis;659637; said:
Are you talking about the man in the group who was coming down from the summit and came across another group's member dying on the mountain? Didn't you see the part where it was explained WHY they can't help people that high up on the mountain? A huge group from China had an expedition on Everest to retrieve a single body. They failed. There are a lot of dead bodies on Everest. You die in the Death Zone, you stay there.

Read up on the subject, his expedition company needs to be shut down. To this man, Profits are more important than Death

I was wrong about him not summitting, he's done it twice.
Anyway, David Sharp, who was left for dead, was left for dead an hour away from the High Camp. Pathetic IMO.
http://www.mounteverest.net/news.php?news=15288

Just because one rescue failed, doesn't mean they all will. This man and his business is nothing more than a junkshow.
Even worse is th Discovery Channels willingness to portray a terrible decision as a well thought out plan and to write it off to a climber's lack of experience or ability for causing his demise. He's tried to summit Everest 3 times with no giudes or sherpas. He's far from an inexperienced or weak climber.

Also, take note that a man named Lincoln Hall was declared dead one day and then found alive and rescued at a much higher altitude than David Sharp.
http://www.explorersweb.com/sitemedia/images/everest/20060527everesthighnorth.jpg
 
RyanS;659793; said:
Read up on the subject, his expedition company needs to be shut down. To this man, Profits are more important than Death

I was wrong about him not summitting, he's done it twice.
Anyway, David Sharp, who was left for dead, was left for dead an hour away from the High Camp. Pathetic IMO.
http://www.mounteverest.net/news.php?news=15288

Just because one rescue failed, doesn't mean they all will. This man and his business is nothing more than a junkshow.
Even worse is th Discovery Channels willingness to portray a terrible decision as a well thought out plan and to write it off to a climber's lack of experience or ability for causing his demise. He's tried to summit Everest 3 times with no giudes or sherpas. He's far from an inexperienced or weak climber.

Also, take note that a man named Lincoln Hall was declared dead one day and then found alive and rescued at a much higher altitude than David Sharp.
http://www.explorersweb.com/sitemedia/images/everest/20060527everesthighnorth.jpg


Come on guys. Read both sides before making a decision. You've read one article from a bias competitor.

David sharp was climbing Solo. He was not qualified or prepared as climbers that saw him reported he did not have adequate gloves or oxygen for a solo attempt. The dude could not even walk, which makes a rescue near impossible at that hight were you barely have the energy to take the next step. The Brice crew found Sharp on there decent, and stopped for a combination between some team members and sherpas of at least an hour, giving the man oxygen and trying to help him. This was also done by other climbing expeditions that concluded he was beyond help becasue he could not stand or even stand with the help of other climbers. Later that season before Lincoln Hall was rescued another climbing team, ON THERE DECENT, tried to help him but could not and left him still alive, but declared him dead. How come that team wasn't rediculed for the same decision Brice made. Fortunately Hall was found the following morning miraculously still alive by a team of 6 heading up. They had the strength to aid Hall while a rescue team of 12 Sherpas were sent for the rescue. 12! There is no humanly way Brices team would have been able to aid Sharp. Why was a rescue team of 12 sherpas not called to help Sharp? Who knows maybe there was not the resources for that, regardless that does not fall on the shoulders of Brice who is taking all the heat for this. On top of that, with aid, Hall was able to walk and slightly down the mountain he was walking on his own. Shows he was more physically prepared then Sharp.


Yes human life is valuable and much more valuable then climbing a mountain, but Brice had an obligation to keep his team and sherpas safe and alive. He assessed the situation from his experience and made his decision. It is not Brice's fault that Sharp decided to climb solo when he was unable to make it. If Sharp climbs with a guide or another climber that can recognize his altitude sickness early, his life is saved cause he can turn around UNDER HIS OWN POWER.

The article keeps repeating the comment by Brice "It's not their [Sherpas] job to die alongside you because of your ambitions," he tells his clients. "If I see that that's going to happen, I'm going to call the Sherpas away. I will deal with that in court later - and you will die." That comment is taken completely out of context, and has nothing to do with Sharp. He was talking to his own clients who were refusing to turn around inspite of Brice, his Sherpas and Guides advising to do so. and he is right to say that if your ambitions and stuborness gets in the way of the safety of 5 other people and you've been warned to come down he'll leave you.

People have choices. Sharp made bad choices that cost him his life. Sharps own mother feels that way saying David was responsible for his own survival, and she does not blame other climbers for his death.

Russell Brice is being used as the scape goat in this situation. Instead of placing the blame on the individuals and preperation and right equipement people are placing that on Brice who DID try to help and dying man who was beyond help.
 
Well said Derpeder. :thumbsup:
 
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