thanks for all the info guys. the link was great but i've already got plans for my lil buddies when they get bigger. i wouldn't give them up for the world and the last thing i wanna do is cram em in a tank too small for em. i just love petting my hybrid and feeding them by hand. the reason i asked if anyone found any like em is because my lfs has em for sale every once ina while but they never look anything like mine. they are always mostly tiger looking with no red tail characteristics. thanks again guys