exodon: why so expensive?

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Oddly enough in "Tropical Fish Hobbyist" June 2009 issue...they have an article on exodons. A few choice snippets...

" they will breed for hobbyist as long as they are set up with spawning in mind "

" Breeding in aquaria has been accomplished numerous times with Exodon"

Is this guy full of it?
 
hmmm... unless the majority of us are oblivious to some secret method... lol. i could try putting "spanish moss" in my tank until theres only 2" of clear water on the surface and drop the temp down to the 70s like explained in that angelfire page...

did it give the name of the guy who wrote that?

what about a section on HOW to accomplish this frequently successful breeding?
 
Skrap;3137690; said:
Oddly enough in "Tropical Fish Hobbyist" June 2009 issue...they have an article on exodons. A few choice snippets...

" they will breed for hobbyist as long as they are set up with spawning in mind "

" Breeding in aquaria has been accomplished numerous times with Exodon"

Is this guy full of it?

to be short. yes, he is full of it. there have not been very many documented cases of captive breeding. anyone can make such a claim, but there is nothing to back it up.
 
Retuks;3137221; said:
my statement is sourced from http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/exodon.html. and that particular article is written by a man who's spent most of his life acquiring information about South American species and the like. you sure you dont mean when it was introduced to hawaii? he never mentioned the status of the woman who bred the fish in home aquarium conditions..

but you, quit sapping every post i make about exodons...



"BREEDING
The fish has been bred in captivity at 2 1/2 inches. Females are broader and heavier than the male. Males have a slightly longer anal and dorsal fin rays than the females. The dorsal, anal, and pelvic fins are reddish, adipose yellow, caudal yellowish basally, lobes pink; back brownish, silvery ventrally, tinted yellowish. The female is generally yellowish.​
The species was first bred in captivity in 1955 by a 17 year old named Martha Tutwiler.​
According to Tutwiler, breeding this species is difficult, because of the fast swimming nature of the species. They were fed live foods and were constantly eating. The species are fin-nippers and recommended no other species be kept with them. The spawning took place in a ten gallon aquarium densely filled with artificial spawning grass (Spanish moss). There were only two inches of clear water above the plants. The breeders swam back and forth releasing eggs and eating them as they fell. Miss Tutwiler, assumed that if they had been provided a larger aquarium she would have been able to save more of the eggs. The fry hatched from the eggs in about 48 hours at 74°F. Breeders must be removed after spawning."​


dont believe everything you read on the internet.
a man by the name of heiko bleher (sp? i believe) introduced the species to the hobby in the early 60s (i want to say 63-65, but i dont recall off hand).
it is nearly impossible to determine a breeding pair in a school until eggs are present, and because of their nature in a captive environment, and the nature of their breeding methods, most of the eggs get eaten before they even touch the bottom of the tank.
 
bitteraspects;3139493; said:
dont believe everything you read on the internet.
a man by the name of heiko bleher (sp? i believe) introduced the species to the hobby in the early 60s (i want to say 63-65, but i dont recall off hand).
it is nearly impossible to determine a breeding pair in a school until eggs are present, and because of their nature in a captive environment, and the nature of their breeding methods, most of the eggs get eaten before they even touch the bottom of the tank.


heiko bleher... he was on the japanese broadcasting news within this past year... hes got a magazine that they show constantly on the aquaria station. and i just read online that hes in jail right now. i couldnt find anything linked between him and exodon paradoxus though, it only mentioned he is responsible for bringing rummynose tetra into the hobby..

and if you think about it, i find it very hard to believe that NOBODY handled the fish before heiko did. he merely introduced them to the hobby, as in, for sale. unless the fish didn't exist at all prior to 1965. im sure brazilians handled the fish long before heiko.

ADD: heres a forum of someone claiming to be heiko himself... probably an impostor...
http://www.aquarium forum . com/f4/bucktoothed-tetra-exodon-paradoxus-1912.html

just erase the spaces and connect the pieces of the url.
 
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