Explain the difference between G. altifrons, and G. surinamensis

[ryansmith83]

Your fish are altifrons.

 

[Al KW Tan]

Photos look like altifrons to me, where did you get them and how were they labeled? Will be interesting to see how they turn out.

As mentioned, surinamensis is something of a catch-all, especially at many lfs it can mean any of several actual species. "Suriname types" is an expression that's often been used for any of a number of similar looking species of varying size and specific markings or color, including altifrons. Distinguishing characters might be spots or stripes on tail, black marks near the gills, size of black spot on the body, adult size of the fish, sometimes shape of their bars, markings in the eyes, etc. There are quite a few species of 'suriname type', some more distinctive than others. I'm not an expert on exactly if, when, or by whom true G. surinamensis have been exported-- or imported to the US-- but I have seen some, if not necessarily in the US, as agreed upon by some of the guys over at CRC.

Altifrons are as described above, small lateral spot, spotted caudal fin, fin extensions as adults, get big for a suriname type.

Thanks very much for the clarification. Yup, they generally get labelled as Surinamensis even in Spore. Could be due to the long names and often confusing variants.

 

[Al KW Tan]

Thanks.

Your fish are altifrons.

 

[Al KW Tan]

Thanks very much for the clarification. Yup, they generally get labelled as Surinamensis even in Spore. Could be due to the long names and often confusing variants.

Feel like getting a Surinamensis to add to the existing Altifrons. Is it advisable?
Don't want it to be bashed by the larger Altifrons

 

[RickLive615]

The one on the left was sold to me as altifron but by the size of the spot and the first two lines bisecting I say abalios...the one on the right was sold to me as surinamensis..it has small spot...neither have the black dash on the cheek so no dicro....and they both have a obvious striped tail pattern but made of small spots...and they have different color body the abalios is green body with purple fins and the surinamensis has a more burgundy hue to his whole body

 

[Al KW Tan]

Hmm.. the 2 fish don't fight?

 

[RickLive615]

Lol yeah a little chasing and swirling but never done any damage to each other, only lip locked a couple times that I’ve seen in months

 

[WatchAquatics]

1st picture I purchased labeled an as alitfrons. 2nd pic 4 geos I purchased for 40$ from a moving sale, the guy couldn't keep them anymore. Im thinking they are megasema but I'm not quite sure. Any help?

 

[ryansmith83]

The first picture looks to be abalios. The second is winemilleri.