Extremely Wounded baby Saddled

[mig]

Hi guys, for being so careless I temporarily put my 4" baby endlicheri in the grow out tank together with the notorious 6 inches oscars and other bichirs arond 4 and 6 inches. I was checking if she would be able to live with those bigger monster just like how I did with the other bichirs. But I was like away for a minute and my baby endlicheri was gone hoping it was somewhere under the rocks but to my surprise she was inside the mouth of my 6 inches oscar. I panic but I was still gentle with my oscar. I tap the oscar's belly in the hope that he would spit the endli out and after a few seconds of chasing him with my hand, he spit the baby out. Still alive but she's got a huge wound in the middle of his back and she could barely swim. I hope someone could say that there is a chance that she will live. Here she is alone on a separate container bucket.

 

[Hendre]

Is the wound internal? Can you see organs?

If there's any chance for this baby to live get some filtration on the bucket, or use a seperate tank and keep it incredibly clean. The cleaner it is the less chance of a bacterial infection setting in, keep anti-bacterial and anti-fungal meds close in case anything develops.

More people will chip in soon, hope this helps in the meantime!

 

[kno4te]

Keep separated. Keep the water clean. Reduce stress. Dim lights. If it survives after 24hrs then add salt 1 tsp per gallon. Wait it out. Keep some meds on hand like hendre mentioned, like kanamycin or maracyn2.

 

[Itsadeepbluesea]

Agreed with the above suggestions, I hope she makes it.

 

[squint]

A wound that large is going to get infected. I would start antibiotics immediately. Also, the fish will lose electrolytes through a large wound so I would add salt too.

 

[mig]

Is the wound internal? Can you see organs?

If there's any chance for this baby to live get some filtration on the bucket, or use a seperate tank and keep it incredibly clean. The cleaner it is the less chance of a bacterial infection setting in, keep anti-bacterial and anti-fungal meds close in case anything develops.

More people will chip in soon, hope this helps in the meantime!

Thanks Hendre, I did not see any internal organs though but the damage looks like almost about halfway from the top of its back down to its belly. I have separated him already in a temporary bucket like 12 litter bucket. I am so unprepared for this so I did a DIY filter using the extra air tube from my grow out tank and the extra bio foam. I would definitely do your advice on clean water and some meds. At least there is some chances for her to survive.

 

[mig]

Keep separated. Keep the water clean. Reduce stress. Dim lights. If it survives after 24hrs then add salt 1 tsp per gallon. Wait it out. Keep some meds on hand like hendre mentioned, like kanamycin or maracyn2.

Thanks kno4te , its been 26 hours and I can add some salts now. At this moment I can't grab those meds yet because the petshop that sold medications like this is quite far away. I hope she can survive until weekend when I can go there and buy those.

 

[Itsadeepbluesea]

Thanks Hendre, I did not see any internal organs though but the damage looks like almost about halfway from the top of its back down to its belly. I have separated him already in a temporary bucket like 12 litter bucket. I am so unprepared for this so I did a DIY filter using the extra air tube from my grow out tank and the extra bio foam. I would definitely do your advice on clean water and some meds. At least there is some chances for her to survive.

I think survival depends a lot on the fish itself and it's ability to heal, just like people some fish's bodies heal better and faster than others. It also depends on the severity of the wound. Some superficial wounds can look very gnarly, but not be all that severe, where as others might seem minor but have significant internal damage. Certainly good husbandry techniques will be helpful, but other than proper care, only time will tell at this point. Ability to avoid and or halt infection are key as are minimizing stress, good water quality and proper nutrition.

 

[mig]

A wound that large is going to get infected. I would start antibiotics immediately. Also, the fish will lose electrolytes through a large wound so I would add salt too.

Thanks. I would do that. How about adding some hydrogen peroxide? Not good?

 

[mig]

I think survival depends a lot on the fish itself and it's ability to heal, just like people some fish's bodies heal better and faster than others. It also depends on the severity of the wound. Some superficial wounds can look very gnarly, but not be all that severe, where as others might seem minor but have significant internal damage. Certainly good husbandry techniques will be helpful, but other than proper care, only time will tell at this point. Ability to avoid and or halt infection are key as are minimizing stress, good water quality and proper nutrition.

you are right, yes it all depends on the fish but luckily there is a way like what you have said that I can do, so at least I must try to do it. Hopefully she survives.