F-2 Xingu Progression......

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Looks good man. Now, am I understanding correctly that the parents are both from the same spawn? Does that type of thing matter in fish?

Did only 1 make it, or do you have some more you'd like to sell?
 
micmike1709 said:
Domesticated breeding is better because you can pick the best quality fish. Where in the wild you are not always guaranteed that two awesome fish will breed. If you keep selectively using great fish from great lineage you will breed superior stock.

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I am trying to prove just that !!!! What i do have I do did have is three great looking specimen But!!!! all related right now and at what point with Fish !!! does inbreeding show and also when i select another female unrelated Witch let me tell you is very hard to find people on this site take for granted there are alot of these fish in reality there are very few ssoooooo very few we are just lucky to have a forum where we share pics and info!!!!

itsKRUDD said:
Looks good man. Now, am I understanding correctly that the parents are both from the same spawn? Does that type of thing matter in fish?

Did only 1 make it, or do you have some more you'd like to sell?
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Yes Both parents are from the same spawn and i reallly don't think it does let's say once or twice but done repeditively most likely !!!!

Houdini89 said:
Nice little bugger....I want one
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Exactly. Fish that are best adapted to survive (and reproduce) by Mother Nature aren't necessarily the ones that aquarists find most aesthetically pleasing.

It's a myth that wild fish are always "more colorful" and "better" than captive ones, especially if both fish are exposed to natural sunlight.

It's also a myth that a couple of generations of inbreeding will cause widespread deformities or desired characteristics to "degrade". Looking at fancy angels, discus, bettas, guppies, etc, etc. should tell you that just the opposite can be true.

And just because fish are wild or come from different vendors does not mean that they're un-related, especially if they're collected as small fish.

Matt

micmike1709 said:
Domesticated breeding is better because you can pick the best quality fish. Where in the wild you are not always guaranteed that two awesome fish will breed. If you keep selectively using great fish from great lineage you will breed superior stock.

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I think we see inbreeding more then we know.. Many people have gone and bought a few cichla from the same batch, same size, age and parents, raised them and they have bred successfully producing healthy good looking offspring, mainly mono's of course but the same rules would apply to any. I think you'll see lil to no difference in the appearance of this lil guy as he progresses through the stages to mutuality. IMO the only difference you may see by breeding fish of the same blood line is in the very early stages of the spawn, in where you'd have more deformed & dead fry the first few days after the spawn then if they were wild and unrelated. Even in the wild fish do spawn with others related to them and there are studies of this. But the fry that do make it (like this lil guy) will be perfectly healthy and fine. I'm no expert but these are my thoughts and I really don't thinks it's a big deal and will make lil impact on rather the mated pair are related or not, and I think you'll find this out over the next year of watching this lil guy grow.

Very cool, I'll be watching - :popcorn:
 
Inbreeding only impacts fry quality after 4 to 6 generations of mirrored genes. If you take half siblings or even daughter to father you are not really duplicating genes. If you use same spawn brother and sister you would be fine, but when you repeat this process with their spawn and then their spawn and then repeat once or twice you will see color drops and body issues. Always a good plan to add in different genes often.

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