F/W Flounder info

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Anyone have any real experience in keeping F/W Flounder? i've seen some around recently above 3". they have cool detail and i think they look cool period, all i kno is my family has tried to keep 2 baby flounder before with no success. what makes these so Mysterious? total length they can get? what they eat? compatibility? Brackish?-any tips will be helpful... thanks jsoh:chillpill: :chillpill: :chillpill: :chillpill: :chillpill:
 
Perform a search on 'flounder'. This topic has come up a few times recently. Here's what I posted. But, there's more info on the threads on the subject.

Keeping Your New ?Freshwater? Flounder

Aqualand?s inside info on Achirus lineatus

Flounder Factoids

Origin - USA

Temperature - 70-85F

Lighting - Needs no special lights

Attitude - Seemingly shy and retiring

Security - Blends into the substrate

Foods - Start on live worms or small fishes

Size - Six inch max -- long not across

Water - Prefers slightly brackish water

Breeding Comments - Prolific breeder in the wild

Common Name: Though often called ?freshwater? flounders, these guys do better in brackish water. We?ve also heard them called ?puppy tongues? down south. In some areas they call them ?hog chokers.? Seems farmers feed these as trash fish to their hogs. Hogs have trouble swallowing them, thus the name. Actually, hogs have very little trouble swallowing anything.

Appeal: Like the other flounders, these weird little guys have both eyes on one side of their bodies. Their left eye migrates to the right side of their bodies. The left side becomes its whitish underbelly. They spend all their time lying on their underbellies.

Color: Freshwater flounders try to blend into whatever?s on the bottom. They can control the size of their various pigment pores to change from dark to light in the greys and browns. Some develop spots to complete the camouflage.

Sort of a ?Sucker Fish.? Freshwater flounders frequently plaster their bodies to the glass sides of their aquaria. They suck on the sides so strongly you?ll usually have difficulty netting them. Some you need to pry off the sides. Once in a plastic bag, you often need to slit the bag open to get them out. Flounders can really hold on to flat surfaces. But, unlike the plecostomids and other algae eaters, these guys ignore your algae. They want live meat.

Size: Few people grow freshwater flounders to any size because they keep them incorrectly. The largest we ever saw was three inches across. Flounders fare poorly in a regular community tank. Beginners give them the wrong kind of water and expect them to eat fish food. Most won?t eat flakes at first.

Habitat: Ten-gallon aquariums work fine as starter tanks. Flounders need more room as they grow. They also prefer a sand bottom. In the wild, flounders congregate on mud flats. Do not attempt this at home.

Brackish Water. Adult flounders spawn in the mouths of rivers (where rivers empty into the ocean). The extremely tiny fry migrate upstream. You usually find flounders on the market at the one to two-inch size ? well beyond the fry stage. They start wanting more salt in their water as they grow larger. Give them at least two teaspoons per gallon. Increase the amount of salt as your flounders increase in size.

Foods: If it?s small and moves, freshwater flounders try to eat it. Live blackworms or small earthworms work well to start with. Add some feeder white clouds also. They?d probably also enjoy ghost shrimp as they grow. You can eventually convert them over to frozen brine shrimp and frozen bloodworms. Some eventually convert to eating flakes or sinking pellets. Most community fishes will eat all the flakes before the flounders start looking for them. Flounders have an eating advantage at night.

Provide Cover: If you keep flounders with bigger fishes, you may want to provide a cave or two. However, in a tank with small mosquitofish, the mosquitofish need the cover. Freshwater flounders can overpower the smaller fishes at night.

Tank Mates: Feel free to mix these guys with other medium-sized brackish water fishes ? African butterflies, dragon gobies, African ropefish (if your flounder?s too big to swallow), mollies, and other livebearers (because they like salt also). Livebearers also provide additional live food periodically. Since bumblebee gobies and freshwater flounders share the same needs, feel free to mix them.

Last Words: You needn?t worry too much about temp. Like other USA fishes, freshwater flounders adapt to a wide range of temps. Just keep it steady. Set your heater to take care of their tank mates. LA.
 
I had some wild caught fw flounders and they all died. I couldn't get them to eat. They would stay suctioned to the glass and would never move, even for food. (I caught them while on a dive trip in fresh water with high tanins.)
 
No such thing as a FW flounder - however, you could get a hogchoker, which are just like flounder but max out at 3-4".
 
As with everything else, there are exceptions to the rule. Western atlantic flounders displaced to europe have been found as adults and fry several hundred miles up the Garonne River in France.
Platichthys stellatus, starry flounder, has populations that live their entire lives and breed far up the Sacramento Basin.
Achiropsis nattereri, the peruvian flounder, also has populations that never see brackish or marine conditions.
And, Tasmania doesn't want to be left out either on having flounders that bend the rules:

black flounder.jpg
 
Your all saying... AKA Stay away, they 're pointless and wimpy..damn shame...

Just think it will freak out my guests that much more, to not only have F/w Ray, but a Flounder now too?ha:drool: :ROFL: :screwy:
 
:naughty: Well Oddball u didnt say that, i dunno thats just the vibe i was getting... Didnt mean to offend anybody.. if i see some again that are 3" + i will give em a whirl..10$ why not
 
I have caught and kept FW flounder from Spring Pools (such as Jenny Springs) in Florida. I caught these on SCUBA trip. These Flounder ate BW with no problem. They lived 4+ years till I made a rookie mistake and added a Hoplias malibarcus as a tank mate.
 
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