Feeder goldfish or guppies

[Darryl Taylor]

I know that pellets can contain more protein and vitamins in them because of the amount of a gradients add. But I’m trying to find where feeder fish like goldfish and guppies and zero to no nutrition that fish need to survive for a long time. Can someone help me with this information please?

 

[tlindsey]

I know that pellets can contain more protein and vitamins in them because of the amount of a gradients add. But I’m trying to find where feeder fish like goldfish and guppies and zero to no nutrition that fish need to survive for a long time. Can someone help me with this information please?

Feeders are nutritional also can be gut fed prior to feeding to your fish. A good brand pellet will be nutritional and the safe method of feeding. Some members choose to feed live but quarantine prior to feeding.

 

[kno4te]

Feeders are nutritional also can be gut fed prior to feeding to your fish. A good brand pellet will be nutritional and the safe method of feeding. Some members choose to feed live but quarantine prior to feeding.

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I know that pellets can contain more protein and vitamins in them because of the amount of a gradients add. But I’m trying to find where feeder fish like goldfish and guppies and zero to no nutrition that fish need to survive for a long time. Can someone help me with this information please?

If u have no choice but feeders then guppies are better than feeder goldfish.

 

[FreshyFresh]

Like said, a quality pellet, where the first 3-4 ingredients on the ingredient list are whole proteins and plant matter make the best staple foods.

If live feeders are a must, I wouldn't feed goldfish because of the poor nutritional value they have. They'll produce more waste than anything. Guppies and endlers should have more nutritional value and will breed out of control if you let them.

 

[Darryl Taylor]

Feeders are nutritional also can be gut fed prior to feeding to your fish. A good brand pellet will be nutritional and the safe method of feeding. Some members choose to feed live but quarantine prior to feeding.

This is what I do. I mean need to get a brand of pellet food. But I quarantine and put medicine in tank for a few days before I feed

 

[Darryl Taylor]

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If u have no choice but feeders then guppies are better than feeder goldfish.

I prefer guppies but my only problem is some of my fish are 8-15 inches so they would be a lot of guppies

 

[Magnus_Bane]

If it's the size of feeders that's the problem you could always switch over to platys or mollies as they will reproduce at about the same rate as guppies will but will get quite a bit bigger. Or if you want to stay with guppies I recommend a bigger tank with plenty of cover while also making sure to cull only males as the females will reproduce more with less males in the tank. But the same goes for platys and mollies as well. Generally 3 females to every male. But I do definitely recommend upgrading from guppies to mollies as mollies can grow upto 3-4 inches while guppies only get upto 1-2 inches at most. Very rare to have a guppy get bigger then that.

 

[twentyleagues]

So feeding gold fish is not good for a couple of reasons. First they are not as nutrious as a pellet, basically they are worth about what is in their gut when you feed them. Second is the risk of disease and parasites, if you medicate them then your fish also ingest meds not intended or needed by them. Third and probably one of the top reasons to not feed gold fish is they contain a enzyme called thiamasine which inhibits the fishes ability to use b vitamines. That's an easy way of saying what actually happens when ingested. Not all "feeder fish" contain thiamasine but a few do. The other reasons go for other live feeders also.
Pellets are more nutrious over all. Is it you who wants to feed live or do you have fish that won't eat anything else?
Have you tried frozen fish or sea food like chopped tilapia filets or silversides for a whole fish? I breed snails for my puffer and I've lost a few colonies so I have had to start over. I don't want to feed snails from the lfs until they have been properly qt'd. Snails don't get ich and most other diseases but they can carry it around for a while. I don't know if mollies, platies, or swordtails contain thiamasine but may want to look into breeding something like them as Magnus_Bane suggested.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

So feeding gold fish is not good for a couple of reasons. First they are not as nutrious as a pellet, basically they are worth about what is in their gut when you feed them. Second is the risk of disease and parasites, if you medicate them then your fish also ingest meds not intended or needed by them. Third and probably one of the top reasons to not feed gold fish is they contain a enzyme called thiamasine which inhibits the fishes ability to use b vitamines. That's an easy way of saying what actually happens when ingested. Not all "feeder fish" contain thiamasine but a few do. The other reasons go for other live feeders also.
Pellets are more nutrious over all. Is it you who wants to feed live or do you have fish that won't eat anything else?
Have you tried frozen fish or sea food like chopped tilapia filets or silversides for a whole fish? I breed snails for my puffer and I've lost a few colonies so I have had to start over. I don't want to feed snails from the lfs until they have been properly qt'd. Snails don't get ich and most other diseases but they can carry it around for a while. I don't know if mollies, platies, or swordtails contain thiamasine but may want to look into breeding something like them as Magnus_Bane suggested.

As far I know they don't contain much if any of the enzyme. Granted I don't feed them religiously to my fish either. Usually I gift them out to friends or family first but I do feed them to my flowerhorns as treats from time to time. Mainly so I can see their predatory nature truely come out. Granted they have been getting less and less lately just do to the fact that my line breeding is finally showing results and having less mistakes. But yes live bearers do tend to be allot healthier then goldfish are. I'll even use minnows over goldfish any day.

 

[Darryl Taylor]

So feeding gold fish is not good for a couple of reasons. First they are not as nutrious as a pellet, basically they are worth about what is in their gut when you feed them. Second is the risk of disease and parasites, if you medicate them then your fish also ingest meds not intended or needed by them. Third and probably one of the top reasons to not feed gold fish is they contain a enzyme called thiamasine which inhibits the fishes ability to use b vitamines. That's an easy way of saying what actually happens when ingested. Not all "feeder fish" contain thiamasine but a few do. The other reasons go for other live feeders also.
Pellets are more nutrious over all. Is it you who wants to feed live or do you have fish that won't eat anything else?
Have you tried frozen fish or sea food like chopped tilapia filets or silversides for a whole fish? I breed snails for my puffer and I've lost a few colonies so I have had to start over. I don't want to feed snails from the lfs until they have been properly qt'd. Snails don't get ich and most other diseases but they can carry it around for a while. I don't know if mollies, platies, or swordtails contain thiamasine but may want to look into breeding something like them as Magnus_Bane suggested.

Problem with getting my large peacock bass to eat anything but live.