Festae or Mayan?

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Aquarium center in Clementon NJ had a tank full of them the last two times I was there and they were 5.99, basically giving them away. I’d give them a call.
 
If listed as red terror, the store is not in error, the first cichlid called "red terror" years before the festae was imported, was uropthalmus. If the store said festae, then they may have been in error, you be thee judge, from the photos below
Here are your photos, cropped a bit to help.
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Now here are a coupe shots of the tail spot of festae

male above, female below

and a juvie, of about 2"
 
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If listed as red terror, the store is not in error, the first cichlid called "red terror" years before the festae was imported, was uropthalmus. If the store said festae, then they may have been in error, you be thee judge, from the photos below
Here are your photos, cropped a bit to help.
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Now here are a coupe shots of the tail spot of festae

male above, female below

and a juvie, of about 2"
Yeah I'm going with a Mayan and it said red terror but next to that it said (true festae) so I think they are in the wrong
 
In truth, I actually prefer uropthalmus to festae, not quite the bright colors, but they are hardier, and tolerate a lack of experienced aquarists skills better. That said, they will get "hole in the head" as they age, if pristine water is not provided. Where they are endemic in nature, (the cenotes of Mexico) water is pristine, with varying degrees of salinity in some near the coast, pure sea water in the mangroves of Isla de Mujeres, or/and not when further located inland.
Below a video of uropthalmus in Cenote Azul just off the main highway (less than a mile from the sea) north of Tulum.
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In truth, I actually prefer uropthalmus to festae, not quite the bright colors, but they are hardier, and tolerate a lack of experienced aquarists skills better. That said, they will get "hole in the head" as they age, if pristine water is not provided. Where they are endemic in nature, (the cenotes of Mexico) water is pristine, with varying degrees of salinity in some near the coast, pure sea water in the mangroves of Isla de Mujeres, or/and not when further located inland.
Below a video of uropthalmus in Cenote Azul just off the main highway (less than a mile from the sea) north of Tulum.
Azul imovie edit
True, iatrady have my red tiger mota female who is beautiful but even she lacks the flash of a female festae. Regardless I will give it the best home possible, would you reccomend brackish water as it gets older? Also I was looking for the famous festae temperament lol how does the Mayan compare in that reguard?
 
I only think brackish is needed, if you know its ancestors evolved and lived in brackish, and even then its not a species like a scat or a mono that moves to salt as it matures.
There seem to be subspecies of uropthalmus, some from pure fresh, some partially saline, some from pure seawater
Although they all seem to be able to adapt to brackish if necessary, I wouldn't consider it mandatory, unless you knew its ancestors were originally endemic to brackish.
 
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I only think brackish is needed, if you know its ancestors evolved and lived in brackish, and even then its not a species like a scat or a mono that moves to salt as it matures.
There seem to be subspecies of uropthalmus, some from pure fresh, some partially saline, some from pure seawater
Although they all seem to be able to adapt to brackish if necessary, I wouldn't consider it mandatory, unless you knew its ancestors were originally endemic to brackish.
I have no clue so I'll keep it all fresh. Thanks for the info
 
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