Thanks, i was just wonderin what everyone thought. it does depend on individual fish. i think that would be a wicked combo. right now i have a 3.5" female nasty in with 4 festae at 3.5-4" which i think might be all male, i havent seen any signs yet that would indicate female. 1- male jag at 3.5"+, 1-male convict at 2.5-3". and the hait will run off all four festae at same time. they are in a 180 right now too. and that is also temporary till i sell my other female haits then i can move her.