i wanted those vipers so bad my pix do them NO justice..there colors were so much nicer than my photos show.... if only i was single and or the ol' lady wasnt with me.. next time im gonna bring a hideous female for photos and have her wear a revealing top.. varanio im still working on your photo... was too blurry and bad for my skills so i sent it to a friend with PS... as far as the tort... im still puzzled on how they got it in there let alone would remove it....