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its a fat male. he's been healthy and been fed the same variety of foods since i got him months ago. i checked the water with a master fresh water test kit, and everything came out positive.
 
maby he had a deformity in the stomach or some other genetic disorder.
 
everything came out positive.
There you go. Ammonia and nitrite should be negative. Perhaps your biological filtration is not up to par. Start with large water changes to improve water quality.
 
fsirico;4667573; said:
I've known krill to bloat a lot of fish. thats what it looks like to me. sorry

That's what freeze dried krill does, or any freeze dried perhaps. Krill is one of the tougher food for freshwater fish to digest(although it is healthy), it is highly recommend that you don't feed them fresh/frozen krill or any market shrimp to your fish too often.
 
BIG_ONE;4667796; said:
That's what freeze dried krill does, or any freeze dried perhaps. Krill is one of the tougher food for freshwater fish to digest(although it is healthy), it is highly recommend that you don't feed them fresh/frozen krill or any market shrimp to your fish too often.

Who recommends this?
Freeze dried foods are highly nutritious. Ecpsecially for carnivorous/omnivorous fish if you dont have access to any live foods.
Regarding the shrimp and krill. Ive never heard of fish having a hard time digesting these foods. Shrimp/Krill/Mussels are excellent sources of fresh proteins which are easily digested by most fish. They eat similar things in the wild, But of course too much of anything will lead to problems. Mammalian meat is, of course, a no no.
I can say for sure, freeze dried krill is not the primary cause of death in this fish.
 
FishingOut;4668142; said:
Who recommends this?
Freeze dried foods are highly nutritious. Ecpsecially for carnivorous/omnivorous fish if you dont have access to any live foods.
Regarding the shrimp and krill. Ive never heard of fish having a hard time digesting these foods. Shrimp/Krill/Mussels are excellent sources of fresh proteins which are easily digested by most fish. They eat similar things in the wild, But of course too much of anything will lead to problems. Mammalian meat is, of course, a no no.
I can say for sure, freeze dried krill is not the primary cause of death in this fish.

Grab a few pieces of freeze dried shrimp, let it soak in water over night. You will notice they expand much larger than before, and to a point they can carry air inside them. Feeding bloodworms is much more safer(in terms of digestion) than krills/shrimp. It has been talked often on Flowerhorncraze about krills/shrimp and its digestion for flowerhorns. It is healthy, but feeding them too often isn't good(of course everything too much isn't good - but talking about digestion in general here between shrimp/krill v.s. freshwater fish). ;)
 
BIG_ONE;4668920; said:
Grab a few pieces of freeze dried shrimp, let it soak in water over night. You will notice they expand much larger than before, and to a point they can carry air inside them. Feeding bloodworms is much more safer(in terms of digestion) than krills/shrimp. It has been talked often on Flowerhorncraze about krills/shrimp and its digestion for flowerhorns. It is healthy, but feeding them too often isn't good(of course everything too much isn't good - but talking about digestion in general here between shrimp/krill v.s. freshwater fish). ;)

Flowerhorn would digest shrimp/krill just like they would any freshwater fish. Actually easier because they dont have the bones/scales and nasty bits like organs. There definatly are knowledgeable flowerhorn keepers on FHcraze, but I take anything I read there with a grain of salt. Those guys just probably fed their fish too much, too fast, and ran into bloating issues.

All floating pellet type foods do contain air. They also expand when they absorb water, but are easily compress. By weight, dehydrated foods are much more nutritious than the actual organism.
I cant afford to feed my fish bloodworms, My Red dragon can eat half a pack of hikari worms in 1 sitting and beg for more. That guy would eat me out of house and home if I gave him that diet. I prefer the red wigglers. I would say they are just as easily digested as shrimp or freeze dried foods. My fish go apesh*t over the Omega one brine shrimp cubes. Thats the only freezedried food I feed though.
 
There definatly are knowledgeable flowerhorn keepers on FHcraze, but I take anything I read there with a grain of salt. Those guys just probably fed their fish too much, too fast, and ran into bloating issues.

Exactly.

Everyone wants to blame the food when something goes wrong, when in most cases it usually comes down to operator error. Hobbyists have been feeding frozen/freeze-dried krill/shrimp to large cichlids for decades without issues.

Comparing the expansion of a FD krill or shrimp soaked in water "over night", to one that is eaten & digested by a fish is supposed to prove what exactly? When a shrimp/krill is eaten by a fish such as a FH, it is first chewed into finer pieces, and is then dissolved into mush by the gastric acids & enzymes in the fishes stomach. It doesn't sit & swell up like a balloon, unless you're an idiot & feed a massive amount at one time, and/or feed pieces way too big for the fish to handle.
 
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