The owner also used lake water for water changes. But he ran the water thru a filtration device to take out some of the mud and dirt. The end result was not clear water by no means. But it looked like a aquarium with a fresh peice of drift wood in it. And it was free.
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High guys,
Thanks for the replies. I had a busy weekend & Mondays are off. So I couldn't check the Internet. After posting I saw some pond filters on the web & was thinking about them.
JAFRIAS,
Does that have to be lower than the water level or under the tank? I didn't see it in there description on there site. I saw it was $104 for 1000g an hr.
wasabi_va & hybridtheoryd16,
I thought of trying something similar to that. Im the only person that works the store so if I can get something already to go it would be great. If it were a month or so ago I'd tackle it since it would probably keep me busy & I don't mind building stuff.
invisyblegypsey,
That's an interesting setup. I don't think I have that much room for multiple layers like that. Maybe with the 100g (which is every 7 1/4"=100g) it may leave enough room but 400g = 29" deep, which I think would be better for the fish. I also cant have it visible or accessible from the out side due to possible vandalism. Notice I left the weed growing against the tank. Its hiding the hole that the water comes out of. It would be very difficult if not impossible to unplug it. The pug is a plug that tightened with a nut from inside the tank. Just nothing is impossible & usually there's always some jerk that if its in his site he has to mess with it.
My place is about 6-7 miles away from the lake in all three directions. So getting water from the lake would be time consuming & a major task to get that much water that distance. I know the clarity isn't that important but Im thinking that a UV type filter would keep it cleaner longer?
What about this one? This one says it goes inside the tank. Do I have to have gravel over it? Is it even big enough or is there another similar that is big enough?
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/236005/product.web
I'll try posting a pic of the tank. If its a filter outside the tank it would be inside the store at the same floor level as the tank.
Thanks for the replies. I had a busy weekend & Mondays are off. So I couldn't check the Internet. After posting I saw some pond filters on the web & was thinking about them.
JAFRIAS,
Does that have to be lower than the water level or under the tank? I didn't see it in there description on there site. I saw it was $104 for 1000g an hr.
wasabi_va & hybridtheoryd16,
I thought of trying something similar to that. Im the only person that works the store so if I can get something already to go it would be great. If it were a month or so ago I'd tackle it since it would probably keep me busy & I don't mind building stuff.
invisyblegypsey,
That's an interesting setup. I don't think I have that much room for multiple layers like that. Maybe with the 100g (which is every 7 1/4"=100g) it may leave enough room but 400g = 29" deep, which I think would be better for the fish. I also cant have it visible or accessible from the out side due to possible vandalism. Notice I left the weed growing against the tank. Its hiding the hole that the water comes out of. It would be very difficult if not impossible to unplug it. The pug is a plug that tightened with a nut from inside the tank. Just nothing is impossible & usually there's always some jerk that if its in his site he has to mess with it.
My place is about 6-7 miles away from the lake in all three directions. So getting water from the lake would be time consuming & a major task to get that much water that distance. I know the clarity isn't that important but Im thinking that a UV type filter would keep it cleaner longer?
What about this one? This one says it goes inside the tank. Do I have to have gravel over it? Is it even big enough or is there another similar that is big enough?
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/236005/product.web
I'll try posting a pic of the tank. If its a filter outside the tank it would be inside the store at the same floor level as the tank.
Also I just remembered Is there any resonably priced thing to cool the water? I had many minnows dieing last year from the temp & had to though 20-30 bags of ice in a day just to loose only a few minnows.
It gets 95-110 all summer long here. I was going to use an old refrigerator compressor & a copper tubbing in the bottom of the tank to cool it but the guy that was going to hook it up for me said it was way to small for the job.
So do they mack a tank cooler?
It gets 95-110 all summer long here. I was going to use an old refrigerator compressor & a copper tubbing in the bottom of the tank to cool it but the guy that was going to hook it up for me said it was way to small for the job.
So do they mack a tank cooler?
Let me start off by saying I have no experience in pond filtration or cooling devices.
But you mentioned last summer you were adding lots of bags of ice to try to keep the water temp down.
Just a thought...but it seems it would be more effective and cheaper to have about a dozen 2 liter or 3 liter bottles (or whatever size you can find with a lid) filled with just enough water to not burst when frozen solid. Re-freeze these every night and add them during the day. The solid blocks of ice inside the containers will stay cooler longer before melting. My brother fishes local bass tournaments, and during the summer he always has a few frozen water bottles to throw in the live well to help keep the temp more...survivable. Very effective. I'm not sure how well this would work on a larger (400g) scale though...
Also, if you are able to, it would probably be a good idea to provide as much shade as possible in the summer, would keep the temps more reasonable.
But you mentioned last summer you were adding lots of bags of ice to try to keep the water temp down.
Just a thought...but it seems it would be more effective and cheaper to have about a dozen 2 liter or 3 liter bottles (or whatever size you can find with a lid) filled with just enough water to not burst when frozen solid. Re-freeze these every night and add them during the day. The solid blocks of ice inside the containers will stay cooler longer before melting. My brother fishes local bass tournaments, and during the summer he always has a few frozen water bottles to throw in the live well to help keep the temp more...survivable. Very effective. I'm not sure how well this would work on a larger (400g) scale though...
Also, if you are able to, it would probably be a good idea to provide as much shade as possible in the summer, would keep the temps more reasonable.
the filter is above the tank an about the heat your problem might be solved by adding an air pump & air stone , by adding oxygen to the water as the warmer water has less oxygen in the water ,,, a submersible filter- pump combo might work as well doing the filtering & aerating all for around $200
BPags52,
Your correct on the jugs lasting longer. I should had mentioned that after wasting 100's of dollars on ice, I tried the frozen bottle thing. I have an Ice machine but its not working. Ice is a huge profit maker up here since its like less that .05 a bag to make. So I was buying from the local ice house last summer for 1.25 a bag before mark up, so it was quite expensive.
Im more of a "Quick Stop/Bait Shop" so I have milk also & had 30 milk jugs filled with water in my ice storage box. The problem with the jugs is even at the lowest setting of 20deg. on my ice box it takes at least 2 days (in some cases 3) to freeze a gal jug. I would put at least 15 jugs in or more each day. In some cases the jugs wouldn't be completely frozen & only last a short while. I only had 200 gal in it last year.
thatone,
Last year the most minnows I had in my tank at a time was 1000, & that was only because I was losing around 50 a day with the bags & maybe 25 or so a day with he jugs. so like I mentioned above Ice is a huge seller & I can only get 380 7# bags in my ice box each delivery. So I wouldn't worry much about the electricity vrs the lost sales of ice & wasting minnows
JAFRIAS,
I have 2 air or bubble things in there along with an agitator or jet thingy (can't remember the proper name) that moves the water, that has a tube on it that airates it a little. I did notice the moving water helping with temp & the fish were smiling more also
Your correct on the jugs lasting longer. I should had mentioned that after wasting 100's of dollars on ice, I tried the frozen bottle thing. I have an Ice machine but its not working. Ice is a huge profit maker up here since its like less that .05 a bag to make. So I was buying from the local ice house last summer for 1.25 a bag before mark up, so it was quite expensive.
Im more of a "Quick Stop/Bait Shop" so I have milk also & had 30 milk jugs filled with water in my ice storage box. The problem with the jugs is even at the lowest setting of 20deg. on my ice box it takes at least 2 days (in some cases 3) to freeze a gal jug. I would put at least 15 jugs in or more each day. In some cases the jugs wouldn't be completely frozen & only last a short while. I only had 200 gal in it last year.
thatone,
Last year the most minnows I had in my tank at a time was 1000, & that was only because I was losing around 50 a day with the bags & maybe 25 or so a day with he jugs. so like I mentioned above Ice is a huge seller & I can only get 380 7# bags in my ice box each delivery. So I wouldn't worry much about the electricity vrs the lost sales of ice & wasting minnows
JAFRIAS,
I have 2 air or bubble things in there along with an agitator or jet thingy (can't remember the proper name) that moves the water, that has a tube on it that airates it a little. I did notice the moving water helping with temp & the fish were smiling more also
