I went in to a shop that sells/builds ponds and equipment and told them I was building a pond and would like to filter it for as cheap as possible. They told me to set up a skimmer and pump it to a waterfall filter with a 2000gph pump and that's all I would need. I told him all the sizes and that I was keeping aro, stingray ect. I don't see anyone else doing this, I see people pumping water to a diy trickle. They gave me a quote of 1500 bucks after tax for everything including pond liner, I'll I would need is the wood to actually build the pond. I did some looking around and I can buy all the same stuff from various stores for cheaper (hardware store sells the liner 100 bucks cheaper) big als sells the skimmer/pump and waterfall filter a lot cheaper too. I'm just wondering, is this a good way to go or should unjust get a pump and make a trickle like everyone else? If I buy all the supplies for the skimmer/waterfall idea I can get it between 500-600 dollars. What do you guys (and girls) think?
Filtering 1500G indoor pond
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A few references from my research while building my 4300 gallon tank.
http://www.tadege.com/wakinfilter.htm - I'm going to use modified version using 55 gallon plastic drums for my 4300 gallon tank.
http://www.webbsonline.com/ - Best price I've found on pond liners.
http://www.aquaticeco.com/ - Various aquatic gear at good prices
http://www.nextag.com/ - Find whatever you want for the cheapest price
http://www.flexpvc.com/ - Best prices on bulkheads and other specialty pvc gear and hoses.
http://www.tadege.com/wakinfilter.htm - I'm going to use modified version using 55 gallon plastic drums for my 4300 gallon tank.
http://www.webbsonline.com/ - Best price I've found on pond liners.
http://www.aquaticeco.com/ - Various aquatic gear at good prices
http://www.nextag.com/ - Find whatever you want for the cheapest price
http://www.flexpvc.com/ - Best prices on bulkheads and other specialty pvc gear and hoses.
thank you for your reply. i am more so looking for opinions on this setup, not places to buy the supplies. i am able to get a 15x19 liner, skimmer, waterfall filter and check valve for 400. all i would need after is a pump and the wood to build the pond. im just wondering if the skimmer with a 2000 gph pump to the water fall filter would be enough to keep the 8x8 foot pond clean
I personally would pull water from the bottom instead of skimming the surface. Crap is heavy and cannot make it to the top unless you have jets/powerheads circulating.
This outdoor pond has a 2" pipe over the side all the way to the bottom. Bottom is pretty clean. Pump is 6000 gph. Pond is over 2000 gallons. If you can install both that would be better.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404974
This outdoor pond has a 2" pipe over the side all the way to the bottom. Bottom is pretty clean. Pump is 6000 gph. Pond is over 2000 gallons. If you can install both that would be better.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404974
That's what I was thinking, doing the skimmer/waterfall and a diy trickle. I told this guy at the pond store that I would probably do both and he just shook his head and said "you don't need it". So with the 2000 gph skimmer, do you think a 2000gph trickle would be enough? The pond you showed me is twice the size and is 6000gph, I would think a total of 4000gph would be enough. Plus mine will be indoors
To me more is better but if you're on a budget you have to get by with less. The pond I showed only has a waterfall filter plus UV.
Assuming your pond is 8x8x2, that's a little under 1000gal.
I would get some input from the ray guys as far as turn over rate and filter requirements. Rays are pretty messy.
Assuming your pond is 8x8x2, that's a little under 1000gal.
I would get some input from the ray guys as far as turn over rate and filter requirements. Rays are pretty messy.
Alright thanks a lot. The pond will be 8x8x3. If I can get this liner from a guy selling a 15x19. If not then I will be getting a 14x14 and make the pond 2 1/2 foot deep (to get 3 feet deep I need 15x15 but the 14x14 is a hundred bucks cheaper so I can settle for loosing half a foot) I'm not so much on a cheap budget, but I'm not going to spend money I don't need to. If I can filter it good enough and save myself a couple hundred, I will.
I have 1500 indoor tank that currently is housing maybe about 100 koi ranging from 3 inch to almost 30 inch. I use bottom drain, skimmer, external pump, up flow sand gravel filter made out of a 55 gallon barrel, trickle tower filled with bio balls and lava rock, 40 watt uv. All koi are going outside to a big pond and this will be a stingray pond soon. Sand gravel filter picks up every little particle, my water is real clear.
If you dont want to build a sand gravel filter, i would go with big filter socks for mechanical, and then the biggest trickle tower you can build for bio, or build an K1 media aerated bio barrel.
If you dont want to build a sand gravel filter, i would go with big filter socks for mechanical, and then the biggest trickle tower you can build for bio, or build an K1 media aerated bio barrel.
could i run a bottom drain with a 2000 gph to a 55G trickle barrel and also run a 2000 gph skimmer to the same filter? then just have that flow back into the pond?