Filtration for my breeding project.....

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
A W/D is still more expenive. You won't be able to save many of the fry in a w/d as most will get stuck on media, or sucked into the pump and made into fertilizer. Foam/sponge filters are the best and cheapest method for breeding IMO. Hydros are what I use as well. Putting a mesh over the overflows will be a lot of work for cleaning. It is not easy to remove mesh netting once it is in place, and it will get plugged up.
 
How many tanks are you going to have to start with?

Under ten and you would be better off with sponge filters and separate heaters (especially if your fish require different breeding temps and water conditions).

There is a diy for making sponge filers too.

If your dead set on a sump and multiple tanks, dearch the DIY section on here, there are some very good systems and use a course sponge on the intakes.

Just remember if one tank gets sick all the tanks get sick.

Dr Joe

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Junk from what I've seen. Stick with Ebo Jager or Visitherm. I've had both for years and never had a problem.
 
ok so which is better Ebo Jager... or marineland Visitherm?????

also do you recoomend 100-watts heater for a 10-gallon tank??(my basement is cold most of the time)



thanks
 
I'd prefer the Visitherm over the Ebo based on the sole reason that its about 2/3 the length of the Jager. Sure the Ebos are great heaters, but they are massive. I've got a 100w Jager in my 10g with no complaints though. I had to bury the bottom of the heater in the substrate and have it sticking above the water like to make it work how I wanted. This wouldn't have been a problem with the Visitherm.

Pic for reference.
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I'm going to sketch you something that I think you should do. It's based off a central sump, but utilizes a spill-way design that is popular. Give me a few minutes...
 
Here's a quick sketch.

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Nothing is drawn to scale other than the fact that the tanks are arranged in an ascending order. The thick lines within the tanks are PVC style overflows that essentially drop into the tank below. Water travels through the the successive tank before dropping through the other side to the other tank. By utilizing a sump you'll be able to use a single 250-300w heater and save a ton of money. A 500-750 GPH pump and you'll be set. I'd estimate the heater/filter/pump combo to set you back no more than $75 if you shop around.
 
Cheap heater are what they are, cheap. I've had some last over twenty yrs. (really) and some break the same day. You have more to woory about with cheap heaters running away and boiling your fish than just dieing (the thermostat contacts weld themselves together).

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Tainted Glory;858396; said:
Here's a quick sketch.

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Nothing is drawn to scale other than the fact that the tanks are arranged in an ascending order. The thick lines within the tanks are PVC style overflows that essentially drop into the tank below. Water travels through the the successive tank before dropping through the other side to the other tank. By utilizing a sump you'll be able to use a single 250-300w heater and save a ton of money. A 500-750 GPH pump and you'll be set. I'd estimate the heater/filter/pump combo to set you back no more than $75 if you shop around.
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First problem here is only the top tank gets fresh water, the other's get polluted and not really dilluted leftovers.

Second problem is balancing flow, draining one into another leaves you open to overflow disasters.

Stay with the foam filters and if you can't afford better heaters, start with the cheapies but keep a constant watch on them.

Is it possible to close off part of the basement where the tanks will be, just a false wall or two (some 2x4's and a few sheets of drywall), nothing fancy, then you could heat that area and lessen the the dependancy on in-tank heaters.

Plus it keeps tank contamination to a minimum (dust, sprays etc.) (is the laundry down there too?).

And it's your own fish room :D .

Dr Joe

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thanks for the help so far guys.... im going to order the supplies soon but i had a few more questions......

1)What if i buy the Jager for the 10-gallon and i put it in the tank sideways in the back will that work too??

2)Are 10-gallons and 20-Gallons good for breeding small fish??(the 30-gallon is for the discus Breeding Pair)

3)I'm setting up 5 tanks for breeding and i will use the hydro filters but i was just planning to use the "Tetra Air Pump 100" as a air pump, which is rated for 100-Gallons and i was wondering that if i buy a-lot of airline tubing can i just use the "Tetra 100 Air Pump" for all the tanks and divide the air out equally into all 5 tanks with just that one Air Pump????



thanks
 
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