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Thank you all for sympathies. I am just doing due diligence.

Ah man so sorry to see so many big fish dead. I hope the tank and the rest of the fish are ok.

The rest have been seemingly without change, except pulled out one sun cat yesterday from the same 4500 gal, pretty much dead, I am assuming from overeating, not from MG treatment. But really can't be sure. Don't know what else it could be.

It has been overeating for years though... and it eventually caught up with it. It turned out to be ~14" total length from snout tip to tail fork base. The round imprints and discoloration visible on the first photo are from it being stuck on an overflow screen for a while. Other than that, there is no damage on it.

Since it didn't sink but floated, I am guessing the vultures have not had a chance to surgically remove its stomach yet as they like to do to everything that falls to the bottom and doesn't swim.

The thread on our eight, well now seven, sun cats in the Catfish section: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...catfish-9-11-5-8-year-old-in-4500-gal.680969/

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Thank you all for sympathies. I am just doing due diligence.



The rest have been seemingly without change, except pulled out one sun cat yesterday from the same 4500 gal, pretty much dead, I am assuming from overeating, not from MG treatment. But really can't be sure. Don't know what else it could be.

It has been overeating for years though... and it eventually caught up with it. It turned out to be ~14" total length from snout tip to tail fork base. The round imprints and discoloration visible on the first photo are from it being stuck on an overflow screen for a while. Other than that, there is no damage on it.

Since it didn't sink but floated, I am guessing the vultures have not had a chance to surgically remove its stomach yet as they like to do to everything that falls to the bottom and doesn't swim.

The thread on our eight, well now seven, sun cats in the Catfish section: https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...catfish-9-11-5-8-year-old-in-4500-gal.680969/

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Maybe I should cut back on feedings for my cats. My Raphael's look like that. A big round ball that barely swims.
 
In captivity, being this round is more common for raphs than for sun cats but overall, I'm sure it is not healthy for either.
 
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Geez man. Thats incredible and also pretty cool that you speak about went wrong instead of only the successes.
 
My second of Chrysichthys ornatus trio finally gave up. Final measure at 12". It's been getting thin and his backbone getting misshapen for a few years, which surprised me - it had been free from any defects all its prior life. I found it wrapped around the bottom drain, still breathing but too weak to even swim.

Just a few months ago it was still strong enough to pick an inconsequential fight with its brother, the one-eyed ornatus, the now-last remaining one, which is pretty beefy.

Thin fish... not much meat on it, perhaps this is why our vulture 6-pack didn't touch it. The tail tattered by pbass - I witnessed it.

The first one of the trio too wasted away like this one only quicker and didn't get misshapen.

Finally I was able to measure its mouth - it's 3" in diameter, may be a bit more. Humongous mouth for a 12" fish:

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At least, you knew what's happened and cause of your fish death.
I went home today and all my 3 anglers fish are death (saltwater), tested water and ammo is 0ppm, Nitrite 0ppm and Nitrate around 10ppm, tank temp is 82. They were not show any sign stresses or sickness last few months and look all normal this morning, all damsels (I used damsels as live feeder and they all went through intensive Quarantine) are fine show no sickness and also eating well with high quality pellets, frozen marine foods. All three anglers prey on these damsels very well so it's not starve to death situation. The strange part that all 3 died on same day and all damsels living in same tank are fine.
 
Yeah, that's pretty hard to swallow. My sympathies.

I don't always know the cause of death of my fish. Only in about half the cases I can be reasonably sure.
 
Dam dude, you lost a fair few fish, is this an on going issue in that tank?
 
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