firemouth help

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Sab_Fan;4298663; said:
playing the averages . . . everyone has a "tough" version of one fish, and a "wimp" version of another . . .

when all is said and done, acrosss the board, mildly aggressive pretty much sums up the firemouth . . .

my concern was that if his mom had a tank full of guppies or neon tetras, it might not be a good idea to drop a firemouth into their midst . . . :D
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That is kinda what I was thinking. Why would you advise putting guppies into a tank with a con or FM. They would just end up being feeders
 
Ive had tanks with both cons and firemouths with almost hundreds of buenos aires tetras that never got eaten. cons and firemouths dont start out at 4" ya know? plus, it sounds like his mom wants lots of fish/movement and tetras are a whole lot less bioload and $$$ than silver dollars/parrots/plecos. Its not that hard to understand.
 
VRWC;4300238; said:
Ive had tanks with both cons and firemouths with almost hundreds of buenos aires tetras that never got eaten. cons and firemouths dont start out at 4" ya know? plus, it sounds like his mom wants lots of fish/movement and tetras are a whole lot less bioload and $$$ than silver dollars/parrots/plecos. Its not that hard to understand.
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Tetras have a lot more body mass than guppies. I wasn't worried about the Tetras getting eaten. A 2" convict could easily consume a guppy, it might not be in one gulp but there is still the possibility that it could get eaten.
 
sorry man my bad i had a bad day yesterday an ive tried before when she had a breeding pair of angels in the tank with a bala shark an a pictus cat but yea lol cant tell her anything.
 
VRWC;4300238; said:
Ive had tanks with both cons and firemouths with almost hundreds of buenos aires tetras that never got eaten. cons and firemouths dont start out at 4" ya know? plus, it sounds like his mom wants lots of fish/movement and tetras are a whole lot less bioload and $$$ than silver dollars/parrots/plecos. Its not that hard to understand.
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note that I said "neon tetras", which are small and quite edible . . . also, that was just my example of what could be a problem, and why I was asking the OP to fill us in on what was actually in the tank

total de-rail of the thread . . .
 
Sab_Fan;4298663; said:
playing the averages . . . everyone has a "tough" version of one fish, and a "wimp" version of another . . .

when all is said and done, acrosss the board, mildly aggressive pretty much sums up the firemouth . . .

my concern was that if his mom had a tank full of guppies or neon tetras, it might not be a good idea to drop a firemouth into their midst . . . :D
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I think firemouths are very underrated in aggression. Mine killed a lager salvini. You can never say which cichlid is more aggressive then another because it is all up to the indiviual.

For the OP-that tank is a dissaster waiting to happen once those cichlids hit sexual maturity. Not to mention the bioload of waste from so many fish. Your mom would have to do water changes every day just to keep those fish healthy.
 
she has a emperior 400 filter on it but yea still have to do water changes
 
filter just gets rid of ammonia and nitrites but does nothing for nitrates which will be sky high as soon as those fish are all larger than 3in. and a pleco gets MASSIVE, unless it is like a bristlenose or something which im thinking its most likely a common pleco which get like 18", try to talk about it with your mother in a nice way and not an accusing way, just be like "hey why dont we just keep the FM and con and get some of these tetras, they are way more colorful than that pleco and other stuff" or something like that, just show her other smaller stuff she can keep in the tank that will be comfortable in there and not die a horrible death from stunting or being picked on to death, and maybe if you bring her on here or show her pictures of these fish full grown so that she can see just how big they actually get as a lot of people (myself included before i saw big cichlids in person) just dont realize how big a fish really gets without actually seeing it,
 
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