Bit the bullet and will be getting my first ray tmrw from vamptrev. Any tips for a first timer? Read as many stickies as I could.
First Ray Owner
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Air stones are great with pups, they eat a lot, and the coloring is not always indicative of disease.
I've owned 0 blacks let alone a bd
I've owned 0 blacks let alone a bd
I will have two AC 110, aeration is pretty good, still recommend air stones?
lol yeah, wasnt rly interested in a ray at all TBH. made a silly comment on one of vamptrev's sales post, one comment led to another and he gave me a great deal on this little guy.
Yeah, I was considering it too. They aren't something that you won't be able to cope with if you've dealt with the more difficult catfish or the more demanding cichlids, the scariest part is the price tag. You will think of it as an investment, and something you might lose sleep over. At least, I did because I wanted to be sure they would settle in without any trouble. You will need sinking foods, worms, tilapia, pellets or whatever he has them on. Once they are settled in you'll have a lot more comfort with them, but the first week or so for me is very exciting and stressful. Just keep in mind that when young in particular they are super sensitive, if I were to start over I'd leave the pup in a 40g+ by itself until it's fat and happy. Multiple feedings per day is ideal, and night feeding at least for me are not a deal breaker like they would be with cichlids. Something I would keep in mind is that every ray has a personality. Some don't like other rays on top of them, some of them love to have the company; some love to climb the walls of the tank and others like to burrow under the sand. As a first timer it might be difficult to tell personality vs problems so having a good resource like
vamptrev
at a personal communication level can be a huge help.*following* this. at some point im gona build a 8*8*2 ray tank. research in the meantime.
this alone is invaluable to me.
Yeah, I was considering it too. They aren't something that you won't be able to cope with if you've dealt with the more difficult catfish or the more demanding cichlids, the scariest part is the price tag. You will think of it as an investment, and something you might lose sleep over. At least, I did because I wanted to be sure they would settle in without any trouble. You will need sinking foods, worms, tilapia, pellets or whatever he has them on. Once they are settled in you'll have a lot more comfort with them, but the first week or so for me is very exciting and stressful. Just keep in mind that when young in particular they are super sensitive, if I were to start over I'd leave the pup in a 40g+ by itself until it's fat and happy. Multiple feedings per day is ideal, and night feeding at least for me are not a deal breaker like they would be with cichlids. Something I would keep in mind is that every ray has a personality. Some don't like other rays on top of them, some of them love to have the company; some love to climb the walls of the tank and others like to burrow under the sand. As a first timer it might be difficult to tell personality vs problems so having a good resource like
this alone is invaluable to me.
Congrats man. Black Rays are awesome especially bd. Where in Mi are you?
With filtration 2 AC 110s is alright you'd probably be fine but I'd add at least a canister or at the least a big sponge filter or something that has a lot of biomedia preferably a sump. That's just me especially with a black Ray it's worth the investment. Feed him as often as u can daily whatever he'll eat until he's comfortable and fat. Good luck!
With filtration 2 AC 110s is alright you'd probably be fine but I'd add at least a canister or at the least a big sponge filter or something that has a lot of biomedia preferably a sump. That's just me especially with a black Ray it's worth the investment. Feed him as often as u can daily whatever he'll eat until he's comfortable and fat. Good luck!
Yeah, I was considering it too. They aren't something that you won't be able to cope with if you've dealt with the more difficult catfish or the more demanding cichlids, the scariest part is the price tag. You will think of it as an investment, and something you might lose sleep over. At least, I did because I wanted to be sure they would settle in without any trouble. You will need sinking foods, worms, tilapia, pellets or whatever he has them on. Once they are settled in you'll have a lot more comfort with them, but the first week or so for me is very exciting and stressful. Just keep in mind that when young in particular they are super sensitive, if I were to start over I'd leave the pup in a 40g+ by itself until it's fat and happy. Multiple feedings per day is ideal, and night feeding at least for me are not a deal breaker like they would be with cichlids. Something I would keep in mind is that every ray has a personality. Some don't like other rays on top of them, some of them love to have the company; some love to climb the walls of the tank and others like to burrow under the sand. As a first timer it might be difficult to tell personality vs problems so having a good resource like
Yeah, I just spent 4 figures on a fish. My friends think Im insane. Chk listing everything rite now. Gotta be honest, Im scare of owning this thing. My first ray ever, but I heard blacks were hardy rays. Thanks for the tips/info. Figure feeding him twice a day, once at morning & nite. Feeding catfish/shrimp.
Yeah, I just ordered a liter of K1 kaldness, n thinkin bout doing a DIY filter.
More fun Ray stuff that's probably obvious by I will share for my various brotege. Pups have small mouths, itty bitty little mouths that have a hard time eating anytime that is wide. If your chopping something up for them and you ponder whether or not they are small enough they probably aren't.
Rays like company and can actively learn from eachother in my experience. I picked up a mm from Jeff Rapps a couple of weeks ago, and while they aren't terribly picky to begin, I feel like she picked up tilapia because of the others.
Rays are very personable and expensive, as a result many hobbiests have strong opinions in regarding them. This has a lot of different effects on behavior, but the most relevant one is that information can become heavily biased. I would take everything I read with a grain of salt, and trust the experts here. (I am not one of them)
If they are worried about the four digit fish you better not show them the cost of your 4' width in a couple of years haha.
Rays like company and can actively learn from eachother in my experience. I picked up a mm from Jeff Rapps a couple of weeks ago, and while they aren't terribly picky to begin, I feel like she picked up tilapia because of the others.
Rays are very personable and expensive, as a result many hobbiests have strong opinions in regarding them. This has a lot of different effects on behavior, but the most relevant one is that information can become heavily biased. I would take everything I read with a grain of salt, and trust the experts here. (I am not one of them)
If they are worried about the four digit fish you better not show them the cost of your 4' width in a couple of years haha.
jimmy I have one of that rays brothers. I got it a couple weeks ago from
vamptrev
. since then I have bought another BD female from him. He is a great guy to deal with. and the quality of the rays speak for them self. congrats on the new ray. don't forget your going to want to do once a week water changes if your not on a auto drip system.
vamptrev
. since then I have bought another BD female from him. He is a great guy to deal with. and the quality of the rays speak for them self. congrats on the new ray. don't forget your going to want to do once a week water changes if your not on a auto drip system.