first time sump er here. I have some stupid questions.

[rodger]

The size you need is literally the biggest you can fit & afford.
A sump is always the best way.
From my experience a sump is a little harder to clean but it makes water changes easier and keeps the water cleaner.

What is hard about cleaning a sump? You change socks and stir or vac the bottom once a year.

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[Jc1119]

What is hard about cleaning a sump? You change socks and stir or vac the bottom once a year.

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Yeah exactly. Or, just plant the sump and don't vacuum hardly at all. Like a refugium.

Sumps are very easy to clean. Just don't use baffles and they are a breeze.


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[F1 VET]

Yeah exactly. Or, just plant the sump and don't vacuum hardly at all. Like a refugium.

Sumps are very easy to clean. Just don't use baffles and they are a breeze.


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[TheRadnessFamily]

Good info already provided, but I'll try to add to it (sorry if I repeat some things)

Tips to avoid a flood:

- Use as large a sump as possible

- Keep your returns near the surface in order to reduce the amount that back-siphons when pumps are off (I would try to avoid using loc-line for your returns since you are going to be keeping big fish that can bump it lower in your water column- seems crazy, but I've heard of this happening and during a power outage, the guys sump couldn't handle the back-siphon and he had a flood on his hands- the perfect storm/murphy's law at work).

- It's a best practice to fill your tank when the pumps are not running so that you know your sump can handle the volume of water added

- Mark the maximum water level in your sump while your pumps are running so that you know how high you can fill without risking a flood. This helps in case you ever "top-off" your tank while the pumps are running.

- Make sure your design is such that if your mechanical media becomes clogged, the water can bypass the media and continue to flow through your sump. A rookie mistake is hanging filter socks in such a way that when they become clogged, they overflow out of your sump and onto your floor.


Other tips:
- Use large plumbing- it helps reduce friction loss in your return lines and gives you the flexibility of running more GPH if you decide you want increase turnover (see below for a good chart and recommended pipe size taken from Reeflos website).

- Use efficient pumps. Lagunas, Reeflo, and the new DC pumps are efficient and will save you a lot of cash over time. Pumps to avoid (IMO) are Mag Drives, Iwakis and Blueline. There is no need to run a high pressure pump that consumes a ton electricity for a standard below the stand sump with less than 6' or 7' of head.

- Not necessarily sump related, but look into buying Seachem Safe to condition your water for water changes. It is the dry/powder form of Seachem Prime, but it is super concentrated (1KG costs only ~$30 and treats up to 200,000G) so it will last you a long time and save you a lot of cash over purcahsing liquid conditioners.

- If the tank is 8x2x2, the aro will likely outgrow it, but that's just another excuse to get an even larger tank. =)

Regardless of your filtration (unless you have a ton of plants) the best practice for keeping your stock healthy is consistent frequent water changes.


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dude, first of all, thanks for all of the awesome info. really means a lot. especailly coming from someone like yourself.

second. that 770 that you have is like our dream tank. in a couple of years before the aro is too big we plan on building a tank into our home that will be more than enough for it.

cant wait to really step up our tank game with the sump/refugium.