Fish compatibility question: jaguar cichlid and redtail (juvenile)

[vd853]

Hi, I have a jaguar cichlid, about one inch. It is housed alone in a 29 gallon, and the tanks is pretty boring. Is it possible to add a 3 inch redtail to the tank? I'm sure the tank size is sufficient for a few months. I'm worried that the jaguar might beat up the redtail, and the redtail might end up eating the jaguar lol. My jaguar is quite aggressive. I normally throw in goldfish for him to beat up; for fun.

 

[haynchinook334]

If that's the case, then No. Don't add anything. As for the "redtail", a redtail what?

 

[Juxtaroberto]

I'm assuming redtail catfish, as a redtail shark would not be able to eat a jaguar.

The jaguar alone will outgrow the 29, and the redtail catfish will ultimately outgrow the jaguar and eat it. Very few people can properly house a redtail catfish.

I suggest concentrating on the fish you currently have, before getting more. Once you know for sure you can get a proper tank for your jaguar, then you can think about tankmates.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

Oh, and don't throw in goldfish. They come riddled with diseases.

 

[smitty03281964]

You only put the redtail in if you no longer want the Jag. The redtail will make the Jag lunch at some point. Juxtaroberto I have been feeding my goldfish for years and have never had any problems.

 

[Joe M]

You only put the redtail in if you no longer want the Jag. The redtail will make the Jag lunch at some point. Juxtaroberto I have been feeding my goldfish for years and have never had any problems.

Quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. That's the key.

 

[Laticauda]

Quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. That's the key.

Even quarantining doesn't rid the fish of gill flukes, which is the #1 malady that's present in *almost* all goldfish, fancy and feeders.

Feeding goldfish:: Don't do it.

Breed your own livebearers. If you have enough of them, it's worth it! And much better than having to quarantine fish all the time, or treat them after you buy them. Plus, this way you are sure you are bringing the fish up on good food its whole life, so it's a more nutritious snack as well.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

You only put the redtail in if you no longer want the Jag. The redtail will make the Jag lunch at some point. Juxtaroberto I have been feeding my goldfish for years and have never had any problems.

Then you have been lucky. I fed live fish as a newb and introduced ich into a tank, even though none of the feeders had any spots on them. Kinda like STDs.

Besides, goldfish contain a lot of thiaminase. Causes vitamin B deficiency.

And also, that's like a smoker coming up to a lung cancer patient and saying, "Well I've been smoking for years and never had any problems." It can happen, and you are the exception, not the rule.

 

[Joe M]

Even quarantining doesn't rid the fish of gill flukes, which is the #1 malady that's present in *almost* all goldfish, fancy and feeders.

Feeding goldfish:: Don't do it.

Breed your own livebearers. If you have enough of them, it's worth it! And much better than having to quarantine fish all the time, or treat them after you buy them. Plus, this way you are sure you are bringing the fish up on good food its whole life, so it's a more nutritious snack as well.

^^^ I really don't enjoy starting any conflicts or anything like that so don't take this the wrong way, cause that's not what I'm trying to do.

But why do you ALWAYS come off as incredibly condescending in your posts? I understand that quarantining doesn't rid the fish of all impurities, but it helps as opposed to just throwing them in straight from the store. And so does gut loading them, and treating for potential diseases. Its not perfect, as you've made painfully clear, but I've yet to notice any adverse effects, even on my 3 ~two foot peacock bass, who before i bought them ate exclusively feeder goldfish. So untill I do, I'm not going to act like feeder goldfish are some type of plague just because somebody was told by their cousin's grandfather that they hurt one of their fish. And feeding a fish 1 thing their whole life is generally bad idea whether its feeders or a good commercial food, and my fish don't exclusively eat any one type of anything.

I know somebody is going to post some link or something, but like I said, I'm not going to do something that has worked differently until >>> I <<< observe some type of an issue. Nobody else has to do it, and hell I don't even care if anybody "approves" of it. All I was saying was if your going to feed a fish feeders, you will avoid a lot of potential problems if you simply quarantine them and observe them to see if there is anything obviously affecting the fish for a week or two.

 

[komodo182]

^^^ I really don't enjoy starting any conflicts or anything like that so don't take this the wrong way, cause that's not what I'm trying to do.

But why do you ALWAYS come off as incredibly condescending in your posts? I understand that quarantining doesn't rid the fish of all impurities, but it helps as opposed to just throwing them in straight from the store. And so does gut loading them, and treating for potential diseases. Its not perfect, as you've made painfully clear, but I've yet to notice any adverse effects, even on my 3 ~two foot peacock bass, who before i bought them ate exclusively feeder goldfish. So untill I do, I'm not going to act like feeder goldfish are some type of plague just because somebody was told by their cousin's grandfather that they hurt one of their fish. And feeding a fish 1 thing their whole life is generally bad idea whether its feeders or a good commercial food, and my fish don't exclusively eat any one type of anything.

I know somebody is going to post some link or something, but like I said, I'm not going to do something that has worked differently until >>> I <<< observe some type of an issue. Nobody else has to do it, and hell I don't even care if anybody "approves" of it. All I was saying was if your going to feed a fish feeders, you will avoid a lot of potential problems if you simply quarantine them and observe them to see if there is anything obviously affecting the fish for a week or two.

I don't think side effects of thiaminase are visible until its too late. Could be wrong there. But if I was bent on feeding live fish, I would aim for convicts or livebeaers. Goldfish and minnows are far too risky in my mind. Just my 2 cents


As for the thread of a redtail in a 29 gallon.......I don't think it will work out.