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Seth Stephens

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I'm fairly new to fish keeping, I have a smallmouth bass that's maybe 6 or 7 inches. Recently he has been acting weird. He will line himself up against the drift wood pressing his gill against it then take off rubbing his side/gill area against the wood. He does this pretty hard. At first he didn't do it often at all but in the past few days he had been doing it more and more and he seems stressed. He is still eating well but his appetite is not as much as it was just a week ago.
He does have a very small white spot, its been there a while and I was thinking it was just a scale that came off but its not healing up very fast at all. I also noticed about a week ago he had several white spots on his stomach, they were there about a day and have faded and are now a grey that's hard to tell apart from the rest of his stomach.
Two days ago I put some aquarium salt in the tank, whatever the directions were, I believe it was one tablespoon per five gallons. He seemed to be doing better yesterday but was still rubbing on the wood. He also has got some of his energy back.
My water quality is good in the tests I have done. Ammonia and Nitrites are 0. Nitrates are stay between 40 and 60 ppm. It comes out of the tap at 40ppm. I do weekly water changes of about 30% ph stays at 7.5. My only concern about my water quality I have is I have a very high GH but 0 KH, unfortunately that's how it comes from the tap. I ordered a kh buffer that should help, it gets here tomorrow. From what I have read bass like fairly hard water and are okay with ph's from 6.5 - 8.5 but the documentation I found on that was fairly old.
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to what it might be. I have done a bit of research and I think its ich or gill flukes but am not sure. I was hoping someone with more experience may have some input.
 
Could be begginings of gill flukes or gill irritation/curl. Would suggest getting a video or photo to help show what you describe better.

Would suggest increasing the salt to 1tsp per gallon and treat with prazipro. That'll cover both.
 
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Could be begginings of gill flukes or gill irritation/curl. Would suggest getting a video or photo to help show what you describe better.

Would suggest increasing the salt to 1tsp per gallon and treat with prazipro. That'll cover both.

Thanks, when I get home from work in about 3 hours I'll post pictures/video
 
I managed to get a video of him scratching. A picture of him with the white spot vissable should be attached

It wouldn't let me use url links since I'm new so I added spaces. Copy and paste it in your browser and removes the spaces and it should work
https:// youtu .be/zjZSd6J2jyI

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Saw the vid. Can't see the spot too well but see th area that looks like scales are missing.

Would try the prazi and dose with salt 1 tsp per gallon to the tank. Methylene blue dip if able to get it.

Hope that helps. Update the thread on the progress.
 
I added the salt, and ordered the praziquantel, it'll get here Saturday. Will post progress! Thanks for the help!
 
It's now Saturday and the prazipro is here. I removed the carbon and doesed the prazipro in today. Since I added the salt he has regained a little more of his appetite. He is still scratching but less hard then before. Will update in more in a few days.
 
Seth Stephens said:
It comes out of the tap at 40ppm. ph stays at 7.5. My only concern about my water quality I have is I have a very high GH but 0 KH. I ordered a kh buffer that should help, it gets here tomorrow.

Why do you say you have 0 KH? This would mean your water contains no calcium or magnesium carbonate/bicarbonate. That would be very strange for water with high GH.

Are you using a GH & KH test kit? These kits test for alkalinity but KH is the term commonly used.

What kind of KH buffer are you using? Phosphate-based buffers can cause health problems for fish over the long term at high levels. PO4 will be over 100 ppm if you test the water. Just add bicarbonate to raise alkalinity/KH ... potassium bicarbonate or sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). Seachem Alkaline Buffer is potassium bicarbonate. Approx. one teaspoon per 25 gallons will raise alkalinity/KH by roughly 2º.
 
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Why do you say you have 0 KH? This would mean your water contains no calcium or magnesium carbonate/bicarbonate. That would be very strange for water with high GH.

Are you using a GH & KH test kit? These kits test for alkalinity but KH is the term commonly used.

What kind of KH buffer are you using? Phosphate-based buffers can cause health problems for fish over the long term at high levels. PO4 will be over 100 ppm if you test the water. Just add bicarbonate to raise alkalinity/KH ... potassium bicarbonate or sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). Seachem Alkaline Buffer is potassium bicarbonate. Approx. one teaspoon per 25 gallons will raise alkalinity/KH by roughly 2º.

I used the api gh and kh test kit and it turned with only one drop. Gh took 9 I belive. The buffer I ordered was the seachem alkaline buffer.
 
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Update:
On the fish's head there is a white patch now. Not sure what it is. It's more visable from some angles than others. I'll attach the best picture I could get of it.


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