lowering the temp isn't gonna help with ich theyre fine in that temp warmer water will just mean more activity and bigger appetites with bigger and messier bio load.
Fish experts? Please help. Ich problem
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lowering the temp isn't gonna help with ich theyre fine in that temp warmer water will just mean more activity and bigger appetites with bigger and messier bio load.
84 degrees is insane for gold fish even with ick, the amount of oxygen actually being diluted into the water at 84 degrees is a small fraction to what they're used to which causes more stress which leads to ick to fully take over.
Get rid of what is stressing the fish and they'll get better without any meds. Even if there is ick present in the tank the fishes immune system will fight it off before the fish will show any signs of illness. Once the fish is stressed illness has a opportunity to take over.
Every tank has ick so focusing on what's stressing them out is the real solution not just bumping up the temp and dumping meds in the tank
Get rid of what is stressing the fish and they'll get better without any meds. Even if there is ick present in the tank the fishes immune system will fight it off before the fish will show any signs of illness. Once the fish is stressed illness has a opportunity to take over.
Every tank has ick so focusing on what's stressing them out is the real solution not just bumping up the temp and dumping meds in the tank
They are probably stressed from being added to the tank. Letting the problem sort itself out won't help if it continues to reoccur. I get sporadic ich outbreaks when I add a new fish out of QT to established tanks and I would never just "let the fish fight it off". ParaGuard is effective and extremely easy going on all fish so dosing with it would be much wiser.
I do very much agree with the temp being to high and hate the heat and salt method for ich...temp swings probably account for more deaths than ich itself.
+1 for what this guy said. I hate Kordon Ich Attack all that has ever done for me is stink. Paraguard has always worked but be prepared to treat And change water every day to every other day for at least 2 weeks.
Even if your tank is established and well, going from one tank to another causes stress not only because of temperature swings, and PH related stress. Mineral content as in GH and KH variances can spawn ich even without introducing new or already infected fish.
I had this problem no matter what when I picked up fish from a specific lfs that has super hard water and I couldn't figure out why until I tested the lfs gh. Now I acclimate in a QT with similar hardness and back it off daily.
I firmly agree that hoping the ich will sort itself out is pretty much certain death. It's not the ich that will kill but the respiratory problems they will inflict once they reach the gill openings.
I've never used anything but salt (besides water conditioner) to cure ich and have never had any mortalities nor has it ever came back. I double the dose of salt you said and bump the water temperature up to 86 and do 50% water change every other day. Not sure how this will work with goldfish, maybe bump to 80?
Gold fish is consider a cold temp fish, raising the temp up just cause it tress even more, I used to keep goldfish without heater and the lowest temp in winter go down as much as 57F (even lower/below 45F in outside pond) and they are happy, active and no ick ever (I don't even QT them when I first brought them home)
Do what pk stated. Keep temps round 66-77(temporary). That's about it for goldfish. Use meds and water change. Good luck. A little prayer don't hurt.
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Jeez I'm like the 15th person responding. Hopefully u got it!
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is most likely to die from the ick then to survive at all... and fyi water can be aerated multiple ways...
Unfortunately my orange oranda passed away this morning and he still had the gill holes. I've never had a fish die like this before so I'm a bit freaked out and not sure what to do with the tank and my other fish who appears ich free and happily swimming around.
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