Fish Shipping Question

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I have shipped fish to different members across the country a few times and only lost one,thanks to UPS.. I have always used water from the tank the fish came out of..Maybe the guy hasn't much experience with shipping,I don't know but I'd like to know when the fish was shipped out and how long had it been in transit....
 
Particularly when shipping a fish. You pull them out of their 80f water, and hit them with a temp change, then you hit them with a PH change. Then you ship them, where the CO2 builds up in the bag, and slap them with an ammonia spike when you open the bag. I have shipped plenty of fish, and coral. I have been doing this for along time. What you are stating is just bad advice. Period. It just cant be don this way. I have shipped Discus in aged RO water that has not been lived in, but this water was very specifically made for this purpose, not out of my tap. Come on.
 
Particularly when shipping a fish. You pull them out of their 80f water, and hit them with a temp change, then you hit them with a PH change. Then you ship them, where the CO2 builds up in the bag, and slap them with an ammonia spike when you open the bag.

Makes sense to me.There is just too much for a fish to adjust to,contend with, and be stressed out over in the above scenario.
 
Particularly when shipping a fish. You pull them out of their 80f water, and hit them with a temp change, then you hit them with a PH change. Then you ship them, where the CO2 builds up in the bag, and slap them with an ammonia spike when you open the bag. I have shipped plenty of fish, and coral. I have been doing this for along time. What you are stating is just bad advice. Period. It just cant be don this way. I have shipped Discus in aged RO water that has not been lived in, but this water was very specifically made for this purpose, not out of my tap. Come on.

That's assuming that the water temps aren't closley matched and that the PH at the tap is in line with the PH in the tank. The Co2 build up and ammonia spike happen with tap or tank water.

I never said this was the preferred method, the best method, but is it possible... yes.
 
The Co2 build up and ammonia spike happen with tap or tank water.

I never said this was the preferred method, the best method, but is it possible... yes.

I was stating that as an additional stressor. It just seems foolish to add more stress on top of the unavoidable.
 
Unless you're treating the water in the tank to raise or lower the pH, why would there be differences between tank and tap?

There is always going to be some level of dissolved organics (waste products) in tank water. That's what will kill fish in bags. Why start with more than zero?

Matt
 
This thread is starting to veer off of the topic of the OP's situation.I hope he posts more information before it gets closed.
 
Yea, it's going nowhere now.

My tap PH is not the same as the PH of my tank. Your tank buffers through various processes and the PH changes based on a lot of things going on in the tank. I'm out of this discussion now. I don't understand why anyone would take water straight from the tap when you have the water in front of you that the fish was presumably thriving in. I have literally shipped HUNDREDS of corals, and dozens of fish dating back to 1995. ALWAYS used the tank water, and have had very few casualties. I have said my peace, and I think it irresponsible to ship using water from the tap. Again, taking the fish from it environment and into a plastic bag is stressful enough, why would you risk shocking them with different water parameters? You will never perfectly match your tap to your tank. There are just too many factors here. Adding any more is just plan bad.
 
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