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jpatz18

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I want to put a 180 240 150 In the garage. I live in Fl. How would the temp be to the water lets say it get 90o in the gargage would that mean the water would be 90o? I dont like a large amount of water in my house a g/f says no in the house. I want to keep clown knifes and aro and a string ray in one? bass in another and some pirahani in another. Would any of those work. I know parihana are illegal, but just for wondering minds.:headbang2
 
jpatz18;540895; said:
I want to put a 180 240 150 In the garage. I live in Fl. How would the temp be to the water lets say it get 90o in the gargage would that mean the water would be 90o? I dont like a large amount of water in my house a g/f says no in the house. I want to keep clown knifes and aro and a string ray in one? bass in another and some pirahani in another. Would any of those work. I know parihana are illegal, but just for wondering minds.:headbang2

I live in Lakeland, FL.

Your tanks will be fine if your filtration is strong. Strong filtration will cool the water off to some degree.

I have 5 tanks in my garage and even in 100F weather, my tanks don't exceed 82 degrees. I leave my heaters in all year around also.

This climate is a benefit as your fish will never really get cold, allowing them to grow at a much faster rate.

I also have a clown knife approaching 2ft that I have had in a garage tank (125gal) since he was a juvenile.

Lots of filtration is the key. Keep that water moving brother...
 
kICK *** for filteration i want to use a 100 gallon tank and a external pump maybe pushing 4000 gallon a hour (wetdry) for all the tanks. So they will only be 1 wet dry and all 3 tanks running though it. Will that cool it or make it worse since they'll be a lot of heat from the pump. Just look for a way to stay cheap in the electricty. Thanks, Yeah i know my spelling sucks and sometime i feel:screwy:
 
jpatz18;540895; said:
I want to put a 180 240 150 In the garage. I live in Fl. How would the temp be to the water lets say it get 90o in the gargage would that mean the water would be 90o? I dont like a large amount of water in my house a g/f says no in the house. I want to keep clown knifes and aro and a string ray in one? bass in another and some pirahani in another. Would any of those work. I know parihana are illegal, but just for wondering minds.:headbang2

all freshwater rays minus Atlantics are illegal and so are piranahs:(
 
Samps;540899; said:
I live in Lakeland, FL....

You know that obligates you to pitch in on the breeder business that is for sale :naughty:

Samps;540899; said:
...Your tanks will be fine if your filtration is strong. Strong filtration will cool the water off to some degree. ...

NO NO NO NO that is NOT how it works. :( Flow has nothing to do with cooling, only heat transfer. Do a search for Newtons Law of Cooling. It says nothing about filtration cooling a fish tank. The heat must go somewhere!!! Two bodies of different temperatures will exchange heat energy until they come to equilibrium. If the tank is 90F degrees and the garage is 90F degrees, no amount of filtration, pumping, or fans will ever cool the fish tank until heat energy is removed from the garage. Then at that, the specific heat of the water in accordance with Newtons Law of Cooling will dictate an exceptionally long cooling period.

Samps;540899; said:
...I have 5 tanks in my garage and even in 100F weather, my tanks don't exceed 82 degrees. I leave my heaters in all year around also. ...

Two things are happening. 1. Thermoclines and 2. Day and night temperature differential.

1.The air thermoclines in a garage because there is no circulation. The temperature along the ceiling can be around 110F degrees while the air at head level is 90F degrees and the air at your feet being 75F degrees. (I am picking arbitrary numbers but the principle is the same.) The average temperature that the tank and filter are at is what will dictate the temperature that the system will approach.

2. The day/night temperature differential is extremely important because water has such a high specific heat. The temperature change in a fish tank is very slow. The larger the body of water (vs. surface area) the slower the temperature change. During the day the tank will absorb heat energy. While you are asleep and the garage is cool, the tank is losing heat energy.
When you go out into the garage duing your waking hours and experience an instantanious 90F degree temperature, your tank is experiencing an average temperature of the past 24 hours.
 
wow, you know what your talking about but i am slow so itll work? I emailed and ask if they would sell the tank seperately.lol i also saw the price going UP UP and UP.LOL.
Thanks chomper
 
I think the only "for sure" solution is a monster chiller.


It wouldn't be cheap to cool that many gallons though. :grinno:
 
Good filtration to turn the water over at a high rate

good thermometer to keep an eye on temps

limited or no additional exposure to heat sources (windows, water heater/furnace, big lights, ect.)

Make sure your lighting systems have good inner cooling fans

place external fans around your tank to push off excess heat created by your lights/equip.

worst case scenario, get a small external chiller with a slow rate return flow (don't do this unless all else fails, and temps continue to rise)


*Your best bet is to set the tanks up just as you would with stock in them (water, lights, filters, etc.). Get them running - not for cycling purposes but simply to monitor the fluctuations of temps./evap. rates etc. Keep a log for a couple weeks and play around with the variations listed above (and any else) and see what works best. Once you can produce solid (relatively) unchanging results, then get it right, and start the cycling process.
 
If the ambient temp is 90 degrees all day, your tank water will reach 90 degrees, it will not hurt you fish though, just add some extra aeration to keep the water aerated.
 
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