ohh i wonder why i had not seen them around the site ... but i have heard of them .. and like everyone else says .. even in brackish water they dont live most the time .. and you need a massive amount of water so that the tank does not spike over and over .. the more water the longer it takes to spike ..
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First you will hear alot of people here at MFK poo-pooing D. Sabina's (that's the type ray you have). They'll say you need a 500 gal tank or you have to have them in Brackish H2O. Well you don't!
Just ensure you have more than minimal filtration (I recommend at least 6x), preferably have 2 filtration units, one for Mechanical/Biological and the other Chemical (heavy on the Ammo Chips).
These rays are harvested from the St. John's River here in FL about 60 miles up river where the population has been land locked for about 60 years. Or are F1+.
The key to keeping rays, Potamotrygon or Dasyatis Sabina is keeping your water quality at 0 and 0 regarding Ammonia and Nitrites. Vacuum up the doo-doo frequently and do partial water changes if your NH3/NH4 hits >0.1mg/l.
But I agree with most everyone else you should eventually get a bigger tank to house them in.
Enjoy your Sabinas.
First you will hear alot of people here at MFK poo-pooing D. Sabina's (that's the type ray you have). They'll say you need a 500 gal tank or you have to have them in Brackish H2O. Well you don't!
Just ensure you have more than minimal filtration (I recommend at least 6x), preferably have 2 filtration units, one for Mechanical/Biological and the other Chemical (heavy on the Ammo Chips).
These rays are harvested from the St. John's River here in FL about 60 miles up river where the population has been land locked for about 60 years. Or are F1+.
The key to keeping rays, Potamotrygon or Dasyatis Sabina is keeping your water quality at 0 and 0 regarding Ammonia and Nitrites. Vacuum up the doo-doo frequently and do partial water changes if your NH3/NH4 hits >0.1mg/l.
But I agree with most everyone else you should eventually get a bigger tank to house them in.
Enjoy your Sabinas.
TheRealMacDaddy;3314840; said:
trust this guy he is the expert on how to not kill these rays...
just what everybody wants to do spend a crap load of money on ammo chips....
the rays should be kept in large fresh water systems if they are to be in fresh... they should be made brackish to lower there urea out put... not its fine to keep them where they are not meant to be.,.. just because they swam up the river dont mean crap.... we cant duplicate the st johns river in our houses...
Austin;3315550; said:
I did say at least didn't I? As with everything, more is better, but when I said at least, that means the bare minimum. 720 gph with Ammo chips is adequate for two 10 inch rays, but just.
I have kept St. Johns Rays off and on for 40 years. I grew up in Titusville and Christmas, FL, about 5 miles from the St. Johns. When I say off and on, I didn't keep any during my 20 years spent in the U.S. Army. But I have kept them since getting out. And I really hate to dissappoint Nic, but if they died, it was after I released them back into the river.
I'm here to say, that a St. Johns Ray doesn't have to be kept in brackish water and it doesn't have to be kept in a swimming pool sized tank. They can be kept healthy and happy in a tank of 100 to 125 gallons until they outgrow their digs, just like any other fish.
It just takes monitoring the water, adequate filtration with an ammonia absorbing filter media and vacuuming.
Now, I want to know just how many you have and how many you have kept and the same goes for that Psychotic Clown. Unless y'all have done it... in my book you don't know what the heck you are talking about so save your comments for your supposed areas of expertise -Potamotrygons. (PS. Which by you all's standards seems like any numbskull should be able to keep just drop them in a tank and feed them
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"Bull sharks have been caught approximately 900 miles up the Mississippi River, and have been observed approximately 2,500 miles up the Amazon River.[" From wiki
so does that mean that since they are found in freshwater rivers i can keep them in my 300 gal tank until they out grow it?
i mean .. that is your logic .. so i need 2 Fx5's a bunch of ammonia chips and some food and i should be ok for a while ..
SHWEET!!! SHARKS HERE I COME!!!
so does that mean that since they are found in freshwater rivers i can keep them in my 300 gal tank until they out grow it?
i mean .. that is your logic .. so i need 2 Fx5's a bunch of ammonia chips and some food and i should be ok for a while ..
SHWEET!!! SHARKS HERE I COME!!!
