friggen morphs

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

well most shows dont cater to the people looking for the lesser known species , thats what i use the online dealers for.

I used to go to shows and find dozens of oddballs maybe 90% common to 10% odd, 5 or 6 gator vendors and 3 or 4 caimans. Last show had almost 100% common stuff, 1 gator and 0 caiman.


Ryan, chris is like me. Appreciates the simple morphs.


Ill shamfully admit, I like pieds and the various morphs of them and paradoxes.

 

[Wiggles92]

I used to go to shows and find dozens of oddballs maybe 90% common to 10% odd, 5 or 6 gator vendors and 3 or 4 caimans. Last show had almost 100% common stuff, 1 gator and 0 caiman.


Ryan, chris is like me. Appreciates the simple morphs.


Ill shamfully admit, I like pieds and the various morphs of them and paradoxes.

I would like to point out that many reptiles are seasonal, so we have to take that into account for the lack of variety at times.

The simple morphs tend to be the best ones in most cases although some combination morphs are pretty cool while still having the potential to be viable in the wild.

I don't consider paradoxes to be a morph rather they're special genetic anomaly that can't be bred for (as far as I know). I'm not sure if anyone has done any real research on them, but I personally think that they're chimeras, e.g. two eggs fuse to form one individual with two sets of DNA.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

I would like to point out that many reptiles are seasonal, so we have to take that into account for the lack of variety at times.

The simple morphs tend to be the best ones in most cases although some combination morphs are pretty cool while still having the potential to be viable in the wild.

I don't consider paradoxes to be a morph rather they're special genetic anomaly that can't be bred for (as far as I know). I'm not sure if anyone has done any real research on them, but I personally think that they're chimeras, e.g. two eggs fuse to form one individual with two sets of DNA.

I believe that is what paradoxs are. Only explanation. They are sweet.

 

[A. gigas]

Well said Chris!

 

[ReelBigFish]

Love this thread. Normal ball pythons are still being taken from the wild and shipped to be sold for $20 apiece at reptile shows, and add to that that people in Africa actually eat these snakes too. It's gonna be a shame when that snake becomes endangered, and the entire captive population is nothing but inbred pythons.

Also, take crested geckos. They're an endangered species, but people only want to make these stupid new morphs......GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR BUTTS PEOPLE.

 

[ozz465]

I used to go to shows and find dozens of oddballs maybe 90% common to 10% odd,

I agree with this , i do appreciate a nice mix of different species but when one actually hates morphs i tend to no longer agree with such people .Nothing wrong with people who like morphs ,just a radically different look to a species one enjoys , i don't think bps or many others will be inbred to dangerous levels anytime soon but i do enjoy the odd colors and patterns of many animals normal or not.

 

[barberking12]

I agree with this , i do appreciate a nice mix of different species but when one actually hates morphs i tend to no longer agree with such people .Nothing wrong with people who like morphs ,just a radically different look to a species one enjoys , i don't think bps or many others will be inbred to dangerous levels anytime soon but i do enjoy the odd colors and patterns of many animals normal or not.

+1 all the fish yall keep are most likely inbred at some point and how could you hate morphs.....yall dont hate on everybody one this forum for breeding flowerhorns and stuff but

 

[Z Trip]

sigh, I can't stand morphs either. Over priced, over kill. Ball pythons, boas and corn snake morphs make up over 60% of the snakes I see at shows. So sick of this. I am into the "normal" phases of snakes. I wish all these morphs didn't exist and we just had normal snakes and rare animals, Boelens python and whatnot came more easyer to come by.

 

[FishFreak95]

I love morphs, for the most part, when I first got into reptiles though I was like you guys though. IMO if morphs didnt exist, the wild types would be taken from the
wild more and also make them more expensive. Also all these morphs come from wild animals. although very few of them survive. Some of these morphs actually put the snake at an advantage or doesn't effect its chances at all, some examples are pattern morphs and anery and others. Still the "natural" types have a special place in my heart. Although I wonder if you can consider keeping animals in captivity in natural in the first place....



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[Cream]

This is a really great and thoughtful thread!

Although I've always found some morphs unique and beautiful,I've always thought the originals in a lot of cases are just as awesome and gorgeous.

I sometimes wonder if some original color strains and blood lines are growing more rare and dilluted within the realm of captive breeding and thus the world due to habitat loss .

There are responsible,thorough and reputable reptile breeders out there,but I've always thought more should hold themselves to a standard similar to dog breeders with Pedigrees and detailed record of ancestry both for their own purposes, records and those of the consumer.

For instance, I wonder how many people have bought a snake etc. that supposedly has Het traits for a desired morph(s) only to learn two years later when they actually breed them out that they've been duped.

Money,Supply and Demand control the Herp Morph market! Everyone wants to be the first to produce one or profit from breeding them. The reason we see so many on the market is because people buy them.

I'm not bagging on all breeders and feel there is a place for morphs,but think it's a shame they so strongly dominate and dictate the overall direction and state of the market.

Very cool thread and it's good to know other people think about and have good opinions on this stuff!