Frontosa and Rays

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mshill90

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Alright, so I'm going to be moving some tanks around..

The tanks are: 240, 180, 150

The 180 is empty.

The 150 has my 17 Colony of Frontosa. 6"-15"

The 240 has:

2 Large 10" rays
5 6" rays
1 Venez Pike 14"
6 Datnoids 4-7"
2 Juranese Cats 7"
5 Carpintis

Now, let's imagine all of the tanks are empty, and I get to put them where they need to go..

I am thinking Datnoids, pike and small rays in 180.

I am thinking Carpintis in 150

And the 2 big rays, juranese, and fronts in the 240.


I'm over filtered on the tanks that have fish in them now, and I can add more, so that's not an issue.

I just want to know that the rays, and fronts could live together. I also do not keep my frontosa in a high PH, so that's not an issue either.
 
Frontosa are High pH and hardness and rays are not. what are you going to keep your water at?
 
Frontosa are High pH and hardness and rays are not. what are you going to keep your water at?

DID YOU NOT EVEN BOTHER TO READ MY ENTIRE THREAD?!
 
Yup I read the bit where you keep the fish in the wrong pH. Why even bother keeping fish. ,sorry for asking what you keep your water at. maybe I should of used caps? WHAT DO YOU KEEP YOUR WATER AT??? better?
 
Frontosa do not need to live in higher PH.. they are captive bred, which means that they easily adapt to lower PH. I have had these fronts for over a year, and they have already started breeding for me. Do not tell me that I shouldn't be keeping fish.

I asked a simple question, and I want an answer. Not some smart ass comment from you.

My water is kept at 7.4- ALL of my fish are kept at this PH thank you.
 
You are the one who is keeping these fish and see how they all act so you should know more than anyone how they act and what there aggression level is. Yes it has been done before and no ill effects have come of it. My question to you is what is over filtered in you mind?
 
That is a ton of rays for either the 180 or 240 IMO, I am worried about adding a 3rd to my 300.

2 rays, 17 fronts, and 2 jur cats in a 240 is way too much IMO.

I think you should really consider thinning out your stock or adding another large tank but I am probably being a jerk

Sorry I didn't answer the original question :(
 
You are the one who is keeping these fish and see how they all act so you should know more than anyone how they act and what there aggression level is. Yes it has been done before and no ill effects have come of it. My question to you is what is over filtered in you mind?
I would have to agree. That will be a huge bio load. ph isn't an issue.
 
The 240 has 3 large Eheim pro 3 Canisters, 2 Ac110's, and an Fx5.

50% water changes are done daily.
 
Johno27-- you got the same thing i did out of that thread.. THATS ALOT OF RAYS FOR SUCH SMALL TANKS>>>

As your thread reads now, you have 7 rays in a 240 gallon tank.. :nilly:.. That is way to many in my opinion. Esp with the extra stock.. your bio-load must be huge..

I would, if it was me, put the 2 larger rays and the dats in the 240
Put 3 of the smaller rays in the 180
And the last two smaller rays in the 150
(and be on the look out for a larger tank to replace the 150 and 180)

As far as the rest of the stock, spread it out around the tanks. The 240 will already have a bio with the larger rays and the dats..
So spread the rest out between the 150 and the 180...

Get another tank.. 100 gallon or something to just help spread the stock around and lower your bio till you find larger tanks for the rays..

I know its great to have rays, then have other fish swimming around.. BUT there is a thing called "to much"

Hope this helps you and helps spread out your bio-load..
I would get larger tanks for the rays ASAP.. till then, find smaller tanks to put some of your other stock in for now.. Get the bio load down..

Even if you are doing daily water changes, you still are causing harm to your fish with the bio-load in between those changes.. And over time, you will kill them. If you want to keep your stock for a longer period of time, I would get the stock thinned out and into more tank to cut your bio-load...
 
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