Frontosa id thread.
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They are straight burundi nothing about them looks at all like mpimbwe, but really who cares if you like them get them doesnt matter where they are from just don't pay mpimbwe prices. I dont know how many in a 140 but I know people that keep 10 in a 180. so probably 8-10 but that is a guess. I got out of fronts before mine got that big.
Ok. The guy with the group (3) only wanted to sell hes, tank and all of them. How are the quality of the ones in 1 and 2?
They're nice looking burundi's. No bad mooning or anything from the pictures. I'd stick to about 6-7 in a 140. Want some room if you want other types of fish with them.
Are you sure that 3 is Burundi? The guy only wants to sell all hes fish, wich is alot, (I have a thread about that in General Aquaria Discussion, called Confrim 140g Stocking, or something like that.)
This is some pictures of 3s offspring: http://www.akvariefisk.dk/storage/market/03B63694-90B0-58FC-F7B91B8830E5A8AB.JPG
http://dbastatic.dk/pictures/pictures/a1/61/a648-272f-4650-810f-c7fc53ba2a89.jpg?preset=large
Just wanna be sure that 3 is Burundi.
He wants 456 Dollars for 2 Frontosa Males 25cm+, 4 Frontosa Females 20cm+ , 3 Frontosa that are 1 year old, Some young Frontosa from this year. 1 Gibbiceps Pleco, thats about 25cm, 1 Pardalis Pleco, around 12 -15cm, 1 large leleupi male, 3 smaller leleupi females, 10+ offspring from the leleupi, 2 Panaque Maccus. All this will be going in my 140g with 1 Frontosa Burundi, thats around 15 - 20cm, 1 Synodontis Bastiani thats around 20cm, 1 Synodontis Eupterus thats around 20 - 25cm, 1 Synodontis Hybrid thats around 20 - 25, 3 Raphael Catfish around 7cm.
Those are all burundi as everyone has stated, they are not mpimbwe. I wouldn't pay that for any of those fish, but I don't know how it is to get fish in your area. I can get all of those fish for way cheaper where I live (minus the plecos, I don't know about them). Its up to you what you want to pay, if you think its worth it and if you like the fish. I wouldn't buy from someone who is selling there fish and can't ID them.
As for how many in a 140g, I would agree with 6-7 max, I wouldn't add more then that. I have a 150g and I had 12, now I have 10 (sold a few) and I am about to sell a few more. Its just to many for that size aquarium, even with over filtering. I will probably end up with 6-8 by the time I weed out and sell some of the fish. I wouldn't add in all the other fish that person is selling with them either. The syno cat is fine if you don't care about breeding (I have one). The other fish are relatively small and I wouldn't put it past the fronts to eat them if they catch them. I've had several rock dwellers with mine and it never ended well. If you have a large enough aquarium and a lot of rock-work then it works out better, there are great larger set-ups that I have seen on here with a cool mix, but most of these set-ups were 180g+ (that layout makes a huge difference). Not mention that is a lot of fish for your size tank, you would need some heavy filtration. Fronts are decently large and they are going to have a decent bio-load to go with it. (this is ime anyway).
As for how many in a 140g, I would agree with 6-7 max, I wouldn't add more then that. I have a 150g and I had 12, now I have 10 (sold a few) and I am about to sell a few more. Its just to many for that size aquarium, even with over filtering. I will probably end up with 6-8 by the time I weed out and sell some of the fish. I wouldn't add in all the other fish that person is selling with them either. The syno cat is fine if you don't care about breeding (I have one). The other fish are relatively small and I wouldn't put it past the fronts to eat them if they catch them. I've had several rock dwellers with mine and it never ended well. If you have a large enough aquarium and a lot of rock-work then it works out better, there are great larger set-ups that I have seen on here with a cool mix, but most of these set-ups were 180g+ (that layout makes a huge difference). Not mention that is a lot of fish for your size tank, you would need some heavy filtration. Fronts are decently large and they are going to have a decent bio-load to go with it. (this is ime anyway).
Filtration is an FX5. I'm hoping to sell all hes fish, except for the Frontosa, and then hope for a good outcome with the Leleupi, the person im buying them from has had succes with it.
If i quickly got rid of the plecos, and the offspring of both the leleupi and frontosa, do you think the stock would be to much for weekly 40 - 50% waterchange?
Its difficult to get Frontosa around here, but yes this is exspensive for these fish. I havent found anyone that sell Burundis that will ship to Denmark, if you know any i would love to know
Thanks for the help.
I think keeping the 6 fronts plus your one will be fine. Make sure you add in an area with a lot of rockwork so the leleupi have hiding spots that the fronts cant get in to.
I don't know anyone. I just searched for a while before I found a breeder and then I order my fish from him. If there hard to come by where you live then you will probably be paying more then what I would where I live. If they are hard to come by and you like them then go for it. Good luck!
I don't know anyone. I just searched for a while before I found a breeder and then I order my fish from him. If there hard to come by where you live then you will probably be paying more then what I would where I live. If they are hard to come by and you like them then go for it. Good luck!
