fronts and rays?

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i have a group of 6 fronts in a grow out right now. i was thinking about moving them up into my bigger tank, i have my hystrix in that tank right now and i was wondering if people have had success with this combo.


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I have them together. At fist the fronts were not really sure about the rays and tried to bit the rate eyes but soon after figured fast it was not food. No damage to the rays of course they just pulled their eyes in for a moment. Now all well no issues. Fronts are aggressive eating well at least mine are but the rays get them out of their way to get the food. My fronts are 7-12 inches

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I wouldn't be shocked if the fronts could be a danger to the ray and vice versa.

While fronts aren't necessarily the most aggressive fish, mine likes to dig around in the sand/gravel a LOT.

With all that going on, I could see a frontosa damaging the disc, even if by accident. And in theory it could bite down on the tail if it's semi-buried, and find itself in a world of trouble.

This is hypothetical.
 
...or since they are juvies they could become tasty ray snacks while digging in the substrate! :) If the ray is smaller I think the fronts would probably be ok - just keep your eye on them picking at the rays (eyes and spots on disk especially) in the beginning. Although I wouldn't do it at all if you plan on putting a lot of rock in there for the Africans that would significantly alter the pH (texas holy, limestone, etc).
 
they are 3-4" and my hystrix is 7" across. i was debating on selling the fronts and geting more discus. right now that tank has my 7" hystrix, 2 x 5-6" discus and a 9" vatf.


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I wouldn't mix the fronts personally, simply for the fact that they shouldn't have too much protein in their diet....and that's exactly what everyone else in your tank *does* need to have. I'd go for more discus! But, seeing as my largest angel got taken down by one of my 6" Hystrix just yesterday (and having had numerous discus and other misc fish eaten over the years by my rays, lol), I wouldn't recommend anything you want to stay alive kept in with the rays! I'm probably a little biased though today; she was a cool angel ;)
 
I think you need to be mindful of your trend and be exceptionally cautious about what you do. There's my two-cents. I vote risk = no.
 
If its a group of males and female then they will start to peck at the rays disk eyes


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If its a group of males and female then they will start to peck at the rays disk eyes


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Completely agree. My big male frontosa attacked my hand when I was algae wiping. He was defending his territory and his females. Properly took a chunk of skin off my thumb. If that was a rays eyes then no chance. Just not work the risk.


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i have no clue on the sex of the fronts. i took my discus out of the ray tank and moved them to a 40breeder. i did put the fronts in earlier today(before looking at this thread again) i didnt want to mix my fronts and my discus. the reason gor the needed discus move was i added an fx5 filter to the tank. bringing me to around bouko gph.lol i now have 2x ehiem pro3's, a fx5 and a 350gph powerhead with a spong attached(i may be moving that to my 180gal once i get a cover for my heater. it is blocking the heater so the ray cant get close to it.) the fronts have shown no interest in the ray, but i may just sell them for more discus. i kinda grew out of all african cichlids. i only got them because they were at wholesale and they were going to be killed at the lfs my friend works at. we will see what happens. if the fronts show any interest in the ray they are out!


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