Gars now legal in California?

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tourdeforce1;2457739; said:
I don't get how gar could be totally illegal when all my lfs carry them. If I ask them for snakeheads, pirahnas or asian arowanas they don't have them and I'm a regular at most of them.
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like jordan said, this is definitely not the case in terms of determination of legality. these LFS are bypassing the laws whether they know it or not (and most of them should know, they just tend to ignore them).

Gator;2459796; said:
The reason Gar are illegal is because they will do very well there.
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exactly. they may not do as well as we may think, but there is still a pretty high risk involved, and the endemic species of the western US are already in bad enough shape dealing with all the brown trout and bass being stocked everywhere--
--solomon
 
E_americanus;2459905; said:
like jordan said, this is definitely not the case in terms of determination of legality. these LFS are bypassing the laws whether they know it or not (and most of them should know, they just tend to ignore them).



exactly. they may not do as well as we may think, but there is still a pretty high risk involved, and the endemic species of the western US are already in bad enough shape dealing with all the brown trout and bass being stocked everywhere--
--solomon
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southern californias drout and warmer temps have already destroyed many natives here
 
"One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. Much of the damage inflicted on land is quite invisible to laymen. An ecologist must either harden his shell and make believe that the consequences of science are none of his business, or he must be the doctor who sees the marks of death in a community that believes itself well and does not want to be told otherwise."
Aldo leopold
 
Polypterus;2464732; said:
"One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. Much of the damage inflicted on land is quite invisible to laymen. An ecologist must either harden his shell and make believe that the consequences of science are none of his business, or he must be the doctor who sees the marks of death in a community that believes itself well and does not want to be told otherwise."
Aldo leopold
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QFT-------
 
ok i may sound stupid but why not make them legal but the owner has to sign a waiver or something and he has to check it in every month. this a good idea?
 
what i meant is the person that buys the gar must sign the waiver and check in with the owner every month and if it dies the person must call the owner and verify, but if they release it then the owner can be jailed for a while and pay a fine of at least $2000. anyone agree with me? or does this have flaws?
 
lordofthejewsjr;2471492; said:
what i meant is the person that buys the gar must sign the waiver and check in with the owner every month and if it dies the person must call the owner and verify, but if they release it then the owner can be jailed for a while and pay a fine of at least $2000. anyone agree with me? or does this have flaws?
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Flaws lots of them....
 
Yeah, I can see gars getting established in cali.
If you want to get mad about fish being banned for no good reason, get on the freshwater ray and asian aro boat.
 
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