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the fiirst one seems to have bullet holes in its head.
 
demjor19;2206013; said:
It's Xanthic not melanistic, but yes it is a Florida/spotted. The rest all seem pretty accurate to me...not to sure on the tail pic either...either Longnose or Gator.

It is a Xanthic Florida...

And why are so many whining about taking these fish??? You know a certain number of them are perfectly fine to take especially the big old ones... Feel like I'm on the fricking PETA site these days.....
 
Polypterus;2208576; said:
It is a Xanthic Florida...

And why are so many whining about taking these fish??? You know a certain number of them are perfectly fine to take especially the big old ones... Feel like I'm on the fricking PETA site these days.....

Amen to that.:headbang2
 
Polypterus;2208576; said:
It is a Xanthic Florida...

And why are so many whining about taking these fish??? You know a certain number of them are perfectly fine to take especially the big old ones... Feel like I'm on the fricking PETA site these days.....

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Are gars edible? Is it nice meat? I mean i have never eaten paima for example, but in SA they are food fish just as bagarius and ARTC is food fish here.

anyone eaten gar meat before? Is it readily available in US markets like salmon for example?

From what i have read, gar's roe is poisonous. True?
 
ctoychik;2209833; said:
Are gars edible? Is it nice meat? I mean i have never eaten paima for example, but in SA they are food fish just as bagarius and ARTC is food fish here.

anyone eaten gar meat before? Is it readily available in US markets like salmon for example?

From what i have read, gar's roe is poisonous. True?

I eat gar whenever I can..and promote doing so all the time. It is very good meat and far underrated. It has a good flavor and a good texture to it. Gar is truly the hidden culinary gem in North America.

It is available in certain areas of the country and can be Internet ordered from specialty and Cajun fish houses in the south. For a awhile Walmart was actually selling Asian cultured (or wild caught / processed in Asia / then shipped back) gar erroneously as "tilapia"..

Gar Roe is indeed poisonous..
 
Polypterus;2208576; said:
It is a Xanthic Florida...

And why are so many whining about taking these fish??? You know a certain number of them are perfectly fine to take especially the big old ones... Feel like I'm on the fricking PETA site these days.....


Ok can i just ask this then Gars are slow growing fish, with female alligator gars reaching sexual maturity around 11 and living to age 50. So as with pike would it not be better to cull the small ones rather than the large sexual mature ones that have taken years to get to that size?


Also i have jost found this on the net

The alligator gar is rare, endangered, and has even been extirpated from many of the outer areas of its range. Studies in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana have shown that the alligator gar is very susceptible to overfishing. It has been classified as rare in Missouri, threatened in Illinois, and endangered in Arkansas, Kentucky, and is soon to be in Tennessee.

Now i have no problem at all with shooting as i do it my self but you could be killing of your own sport

Once again just a thought :popcorn:
 
Alligator gar are pretty common in Texas where they are usually bowhunted. They arent going anywhere any time soon.

In my state of Kentucky its native range is the Mississippi River which only borders my state for less then 75mi so of course its rare!
 
stotty;2210332; said:
Ok can i just ask this then Gars are slow growing fish, with female alligator gars reaching sexual maturity around 11 and living to age 50. So as with pike would it not be better to cull the small ones rather than the large sexual mature ones that have taken years to get to that size?


Also i have jost found this on the net

The alligator gar is rare, endangered, and has even been extirpated from many of the outer areas of its range. Studies in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana have shown that the alligator gar is very susceptible to overfishing. It has been classified as rare in Missouri, threatened in Illinois, and endangered in Arkansas, Kentucky, and is soon to be in Tennessee.
Now i have no problem at all with shooting as i do it my self but you could be killing of your own sport

Once again just a thought :popcorn:

On point 1:
What makes you think the adults are the most important phase in the life history of these fish? Does an older large adult female contribute more to the population than a younger female? What do you think happens to the population when you remove the younger fish and leave the older?

Answer to question #1 is NO, juvenile survival rate is far more important
Answer to question# 2 is NO, not necessarily any more than an early age class fish. fecundity may increase with size but this does not really increase juvenile survival.
Answer to question #3 is you have population decline...

(Ferrara, A.M. 2001 Life-history strategy of Lepisosteidae: Implications for the conservation and management of the Alligator gar. Auburn University, Auburn Alabama.)

On point#2
Source it or I could care less what it says. Regardless any of the information contained is not relevant to management to the population within a stabilized sustainable locality. Protections are already in place within the areas of significant decline and new management practices within the stable populations are in the works.
 
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