He did say fish only in the original post, although there was no clarification on whether or not it was a pred tank or not.Ashlee;4511311; said:
General saltwater Questions?
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Yes that is true, but any live fish/rock/sand does have the same risk. And if it's your tank, I would imagine you're confident it is safe. For cycling you will need both beneficial and nonbeneficial bacteria. The water switch worked for me, I was on a really low budget though. If you can afford it, stick with rock/sand.
Pazzoman;4511274; said:
Good call.
My $.02..."Live Sand" that comes in bags from your petstore...is not live.
Sand that is purchased in a running system or from the wild is different.
Either way...there will be at least a "mini-cycle" when this is added to your tank, and your tank should be stocked with digression.
I recommend caribsea's "reef-grade" sand because I like the grain size, I like the quality, and I like the price.
The way I would suggest that you cycle your tank is through the curing process of live rock.
What is your filtration system like now? What are you hoping to keep in your tank fish wise? Would sumping your tank be a possibility?
Ashlee, could you explain why you feel that a canister would be better for a pred tank than a sump? I dont see why you wouldnt want a sump no matter what...more volume, a place to fix nitrates...
I think the cannister reccomendation comes from cannisters having excellent mechanical filtration and saltwater predators being messy.
FLESHY;4511499; said:
I said refuge not sump. Often fuges are over powered by bio load and cannot convert amonia and nitrites causing the system to crash. As you know its all about balance. A canister does a wonderful job on tanks, especially if its full of rubble rock. Bristle worms and other micro organisims will break down trapped debris making it almost nitrate free. In a predator tank, and FOWLR it is more important to make sure amonia and nitrites are being exported to nitrates then nitrates being exported. Sure it's still important but as you know reefs are another story and every filtration set up is better for another use.
A sump is always the best option. A problem with sumps and refuges are people don't know how to make them efficient, while a canister is idiot proof. I would say 60% of time canisters are more efficient than sumps due to user error.
A canister or HOB filter can be used quite well. A correctly built sump with enough bio is better, but can be hard for someone new setting up a tank.
I had a rena xp4 on my 90 gallon and it filtered my grow out tank for 2 bamboo sharks, a purple tang, and a large stingray. Never any nitrate problems, of course it was well maintained.
Diodontidae...not a fan. Thats just me. Maybe its cause so often they are poorly cared for and just end up looking sick.
Ashlee...I agree to everything you said. Just wondering because we have butted heads over the filtration thing before just wanted to see it from your angle. I think that in an ideal world, you would have both...hence my attempt to build a sump with an eheim as the return with JUST the bio media inside.
Hope you are still working on a thread depicting your overflow.
Ashlee...I agree to everything you said. Just wondering because we have butted heads over the filtration thing before just wanted to see it from your angle. I think that in an ideal world, you would have both...hence my attempt to build a sump with an eheim as the return with JUST the bio media inside.
Hope you are still working on a thread depicting your overflow.
FLESHY;4511830; said:Diodontidae...not a fan. Thats just me. Maybe its cause so often they are poorly cared for and just end up looking sick.
Ashlee...I agree to everything you said. Just wondering because we have butted heads over the filtration thing before just wanted to see it from your angle. I think that in an ideal world, you would have both...hence my attempt to build a sump with an eheim as the return with JUST the bio media inside.
Hope you are still working on a thread depicting your overflow.
video will be tonight, I run a sump and canister
RATEDRSUPERFAN;4512224; said:
It's going to need a bigger tank eventually but will do good with triggers, wrasses, groupers, hogs, tangs, moray eels, and a couple other fish. It's still a predator and will get along with some fish, and may fight with others.
Predators is always trial and error, that's what makes a predator tank so spectacular. The quest for the perfect mix of aggressive fish all living and sharing together.
