Geophagus ‘Red Head’ Tapajos question!!

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Hello everyone, I just have a quick question. I bought a trio of geo. Red head tapajos several months ago. They’re as healthy as can be, they eat like no other but within those few months I have seen NO growth at all. They have plenty of space in my tank to grow and are in no way shape or form outcompeted for food. Water parameters are perfect and temp is set at 80 degrees F. The top picture below is from September 30th and the bottom is from December 13th.

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When I kept a group of 10 Geophagus sp. Orange head I found they grew at around 1-1.5 inches per month, so I wouldn’t consider them slow growers. Mine started around 1-1.5inches and 4 months later were around 5inches. Keep in mind this measurement is for the dominate fish. Sub dominate males and females were smaller.
I fed them twice a day a mix of a good quality cichlid pellet, frozen brine shrimp, frozen bloodwork and live/ freeze dried blackworms. I also perform 40-50% water changes every other day which I would say would be a major if not the most major factor in their growth, other than; tank size, feeding, water quality etc

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What's your water change routine? I find the more water you change, the faster they (or any other cichlid for that matter) grows.
If you do one 50% water change per month they will grow slower than 4 X 40% water changes per month, or two X 30% water changes per week.
I like to do a 30% - 40% water change every other day.
 
My original group of 2" juvies and subsequent grow-outs from breeding, of which I raised a bunch, consistently reached 5 to 6 inches first year, females a little smaller, then another inch or so in year two.

I won't try to parse out all the variables of why this or that species grows slow for some and well for others, too many variables and it's not always something you can put your finger on. But here was my routine-- Food: Omega One color pellets and Omega One shrimp pellets and NLS, including Thera-A, occasional freeze dried treats. Note: Omega One cheapened their formula a little while back, I don't use it anymore. Feeding: once or twice a day, depending on their size, my mood, etc. Water: pH mid-upper 7s, GH and KH moderate, low nitrates, temperature high 70s. Water changes: once a week, 50-90%, sometimes depending on how clear my well water is that day.

It's similar with all my fish and has been for years, except exact chemistry or temperature can vary between tanks, or exact version of NLS might vary for some species. Nothing special or heroic-- quality foods, no soy or excessive starch/grain ingredients, regular though not obsessive water changes, reasonable chemistry and temps, don't overfeed as it's counter-productive, decent sized tanks from day one.
 
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...Can't say that it affects growth, don't know, but sand is a better, more natural substrate for geos. I also kept driftwood with mine, I find hungry fish of just about any species, especially when small, will graze a bit on the algae, tiny critters, etc. on driftwood. Imo it's healthy for them, at least in a healthy tank.
 
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duanes duanes neutrino neutrino my PH is 6.5, I do 50% water changes every week and clean the filter every other week(I gravel vac every water change because I feed heavy). They get fed two big meals a day and eat a ton. I feed NLS cichlid formula, XTreme krill flakes, bug bites and northfin cichlid with the occasion bloodworm cube as a treat. They’re not skittish at all and will chase any fish that try to eat their food. Although, the only thing I can think of is that there are about 6 other fish that are quite a bit bigger in with them. There’s no aggression as the other cichlids in the tank don’t see them as a threat but they may be small still since they’re so low in the hierarchy.
 
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