Geophagus id

[Simonc82]

I recently picked up a group of geophagus and was wondering if anyone could give me a more accurate I'd

 

[Simonc82]

The fish in the bottom 2 pics I originally thought where red heads but I can see a distinct difference to the red heads I currently have and this fish

 

[Milingu]

The last two look like Geophagus sp. Araguaia.

 

[ryansmith83]

The last two are G. sp. Tajapos, aka orange heads or red heads. The first two look like they're G. winemilleri. If they have four slanted bars on the body and a cheek mark, that's what they are. The bars are faint in the pics.

 

[Milingu]

The last two are G. sp. Tajapos, aka orange heads or red heads. ....

Red or orange head yes. But sure they are from Tapajos? I would still stick with Araguaia redhead because of the lateral spots shape.

 

[Simonc82]

I have a breeding pair of tapajos and the geos in the bottom 2 pics definitely look distinctly different. I will post some pics later of my tapajos

 

[ryansmith83]

Red or orange head yes. But sure they are from Tapajos? I would still stick with Araguaia redhead because of the lateral spots shape.

There are no orange heads in the Rio Araguaia. That was erroneously labeled years ago and it stuck. There are orange heads in the main channel of the Tapajos (clear water) and in the Arapiuns which is a tributary of Tapajos (black water). The only difference is the intensity of color but given the close geographical proximity it’s unlikely they are two different species.

 

[Milingu]

There are no orange heads in the Rio Araguaia. That was erroneously labeled years ago and it stuck. There are orange heads in the main channel of the Tapajos (clear water) and in the Arapiuns which is a tributary of Tapajos (black water). The only difference is the intensity of color but given the close geographical proximity it’s unlikely they are two different species.

Ok, that would be new to me.
But what are the red heads (same colour like the ones from Tapajos) with the slightly different body shape and the square lateral spot (sp. Tapojos have more round lateral spots)?
They come here as sp. Araguaia. Or sometimes as sp. Araguaia-Tocantins.
Are they from the Arapuins?

 

[Simonc82]

First 2 pics are of what I always believed to be a red head tapajos Male. The third pic is the female which spawn on a regular basis

 

[Simonc82]

The fish that I claim to be tapajos in the second group of pics both have a much rounder body and totally different markings to the fish in the original pics .