Geophagus Orangehead Tapajos Qs

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I have no personal experience, but heard Redheads are more of a pairing fish than other Geos which like groups.

If you dont want breeding, I would get a single of either sex, or two females.

People think Cichlids need a mate. This is not neccesarily true and most would be happier being single.

...Bill
 
Dont these geos get like 8 or 10"? If so I think they would be too big for that tank (almost even just on their own, cause there is not as much swimming 'length'? nevermind other fish in the tank?)

I dont know exactly, but im just bringing it to mind?

Chris
 
No apparently 6" is the max, sometimes 7" but the literature actually states 5" however I know they can get slightly bigger than 5".

The tank is a bow front and measures about 50" across so that's around 4ft. I wouldn't say too small but I think this will be the final inhabitant.
 
Does anyone else have any opinions? I am going to collect the lone male today. He is in a tank with a load of discus and a single female in the LFS but from what I could see he was chasing the female a lot and she was trying to get away from him and hiding the whole time.
 
sunshinehippy;3639263; said:
He is in a tank with a load of discus and a single female in the LFS but from what I could see he was chasing the female a lot and she was trying to get away from him and hiding the whole time.

This is exactly what's going to happen if you keep less than 4, unless they're a solid, established pair. They are shoaling fish with a social structure. If you can't fulfill the structure, and there is a male, there will be trouble. You can keep them by themselves but they will never be as interesting to watch or as vividly coloured and active as those kept in a proper shoal.

'Geophagus' brasiliensis can not be used as a guideline for other Eartheaters.

When people say Eartheaters are 'fine' with some of the bigger, more aggressive centrals, I only ever interpret that as them being alive, regardless of the actual circumstance. Cichlids have personalities, if they're in with larger and potentionally aggressive Centrals you might just find them lying lifeless on the bottom of the tank one morning.

MonteSS;3637519; said:
I have no personal experience, but heard Redheads are more of a pairing fish than other Geos which like groups.

Quite far from the truth. While they predominantly breed in pairs, Geophagus sp. "Orange Heads" are very conspecifically sociable, even while spawning to a degree.

My question to you sunshinehippy: Why half-ass a Geophagus shoal based on a few responses on an online forum? If you like the fish but don't have room for a full shoal, either make room for them, buy a new tank, or don't bother. That is my honest advice.
 
OK, then I will take your advice on board. Can I instead get an eartheater that likes to be on its own? How about an altifrons?

BTW. All of my fish are generally peaceful and get along well together. The only time there was fighting was when I added a female sajica who has now been moved.
 
sunshinehippy;3639307; said:
OK, then I will take your advice on board. Can I instead get an eartheater that likes to be on its own? How about an altifrons?

Exactly the same deal with pretty much all Eartheaters. They're a social fish. I regret ever having kept specimens on their own.
 
Do you have any experience with G. Rio Pindare? There are some juvies of those and don't they grow a little smaller?

If (and thats only IF)I did go for the Tapajos and went for 3, in your opinion would I be overstocked? Would I need one male plus 2 females? Could I get a trio of just males? I know its not perfect but it looks like it would be better than getting 1.
 
sunshinehippy;3639326; said:
Do you have any experience with G. Rio Pindare? There are some juvies of those and don't they grow a little smaller?

If (and thats only IF)I did go for the Tapajos and went for 3, in your opinion would I be overstocked? Would I need one male plus 2 females? Could I get a trio of just males? I know its not perfect but it looks like it would be better than getting 1.

Without the Dempsey you'd probably be fine with 4 Orange Heads.

Pindare are a 6" fish are and more timid and harder to care for than Orange Heads.

Ultimately you would like 2M 2F, or more females than males. The potential issue with picking up 3 fish is that unless they're all female, 3 males will have issues as there are no females to attract their attention, and if you end up with a pair the third fish is going to be a very nice target.
 
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