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The Sp.Nieva has at this time not been classified, I am good friends with Sam Borstein (They actually are one of his pair, he gave me them) and here is his thoughts on the Sp.Nieva

"They are new and although many would say it is a Geo. steindachneri variant, which it may be, I believe that the 'G". steindachneri as a species need to be looked at more in depth and it wouldn't surprise me if they split them up in to a few species."

So Confusion reigns, I will def get a shot up tonight, the male is starting to get some red to his nuchal, and as the dominate fish in a 75, they will flourish....

You guys are giving me some great ideas! Keep em coming!

Nuthman~

:D
 
cchhcc;2709708; said:
He's got an even better "mentalindex? of eartheaters! ;)

Hey! I resemble that remark!
Thanks Ch.

Geo. Nieva is what many S. Am. exporters call steindachneri, aka 'red humps'.

Gy. Paso Pache was first imported into the US in 1999 or 2000 by some fool who HAD to bring in a bunch of Uruguay earth eaters and chanchitos.
I am that fool.
Felipe didn't even communicate in English back then. Comprende!?

If you'd like to check out Felipe's site, it's here
http://www.aqvaterra.com/index.php
He has great photos of this fish and so many, many more.

Typical of the gymnogenys-related species, this species will spawn in a pair situation or harem if available where multiple females are available for each male.
Oh the poor guys ;)
The females will lay a small batch (<50 eggs) on a horizontal, flat surface (preferably something like slate or even a slightly rounded rock with adequate horizontal facet for deposition of a small, tightly clustered egg mass).
They are delayed mouthbrooders, so eggs are fertilized en situ (right on the rock). Female will stay by them, but not overly protective of egg plaque. In 2-4 days (temperature depending), she'll then pick them up and orally incubate eggs for about another week.

Fry care is really easy for the aquarist as mouthbrooding species are very efficient in their care of young.

Lots of info available for post hatch feeding if desired.

Gy. sp Paso Pache and other 'gymnogenys'-type species are best kept in unheated aquaria. While I was there in their summer when it was hot, Uruguayan winters are indeed cool.
Don't cook your Gymnogeos!
My Argentina species 'gymnogenys' types were in the basin/pool portion of a water fall feature in front of my house till mid October here in NJ.
The water was in the upper 50's by then and literally had that 'cold stinging feel' when I removed them and a colony of Schleromystax (formerly Corydoras) barbatus just before Halloween.
The gymnos were in exquisite coloration at that time. They really looked their best when chilled.
 
Thanks Jeff!!!

Are the Sp.Nieva just a Steiny then??

The Education on the Paso Pache is excellent! I keep them in a 30 for now, un heated, temps vary from 70 - 74 in the basement, I will have to get a chilling mechinism "Chiller" to drop them for the 2 months a year.

Can you ridlle me this? I have a nice 45 breeder (think 75 footprint 12" high) and was thinking of adding my Paso Pache in with some Sp.Valentines or some El Norte. Do you have thoughts on that? I think a nice large footprint with some Dojo's & Ted Judy has some livebearersfor the top would be a excellent mix.

Thoughts Opinions Please!

Thank you in Advance~

Nuthman~
 
Anyone know for sure?
 
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