Getting a Motoro nxt week, few Quick Questions...

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skylineiz;2418122; said:
Hey guys thanks for the detailed/ quick response
Yea like i was saying, i had oscars and some feeders in the tank for a while and they did fine. Doing another water change to remove any physical "waste" that the Oscars made and is in the gravel, as you probably already know, there crap alot....




Keep the advice coming guys,


Iz
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Did you pickup a testkit? Testing the water is the only way to know if the tank is cyled or not.

African_Fever;2418181; said:
Drip acclimating IS NOT REQUIRED. I scooped and dumped the last 20+ rays I received directly from Peru and Colombia and never lost a single one.
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Wow 20+ rays and you haven't lost a single one! that's an amazing accomplishment. I hope that I will have that many rays some day.
 
stingray94;2421541; said:
Did you pickup a testkit? Testing the water is the only way to know if the tank is cyled or not.



Wow 20+ rays and you haven't lost a single one! that's an amazing accomplishment. I hope that I will have that many rays some day.
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Yea i got a test kit, its one of them all in one test strips. I dont like it, im going to get individual liquid tests soon.

Thanks for the help guys.
 
skylineiz;2422032; said:
Yea i got a test kit, its one of them all in one test strips. I dont like it, im going to get individual liquid tests soon.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Liquid test kits are the way to go; I have heard of a digital test kit, some sort of aquarium computer, but I have had zero luck in finding one. They have ways to test for salinity (useless in fw ray keeping), digital test for PH (easiest liquid test to do, just a few drops and you have it), but I have found no digital tests for ammonia, nitrite or nitrate.

I would suggest reading through the threads (especially the stickies!) and any random questions, don't feel shy about posting them here. If I can be of any assistance, just PM me and I'd be more thank happy to try and help you out.

Good luck with your ray keeping!

-Matt
 
i havent used a test kit in 2 years.... add the ray and at the same time add 2 90 gallon doses of bio spira... follow with stability every day per bottle instructions and dont worry....
 
okay so yeh ive been checking and my params are

ph 7
nitrate 0
nitrite 0

Does this mean my cycle is not complete.
Getting the ray this weekend.. So this is what I think is going to happen (please correct me where im wrong)

1. ill put the ray in
2. feed it accordingly (maybe a little bit less, because tank is not aged yet)
3. then my nitrites will spike? as my nitrates are low
4. then do like a 25% water change,
5. and keep doing it every few days until the nitrates are < 20, but > 0, and my nitrites are 0.

Does this sound about right? anything that im doing wrong? (or will be doing)
or any suggestions?
 
skylineiz;2443308; said:
okay so yeh ive been checking and my params are

ph 7 ph is fine
nitrate 0if you have 0 nitrate than that means your tank is probably not cycled
nitrite 0

you didn't test for ammonia? You need a test kit that tests for ammonia, very important when keeping rays.

Does this mean my cycle is not complete.
Getting the ray this weekend.. So this is what I think is going to happen (please correct me where im wrong)

1. ill put the ray in I would recommend that you add bio-spira with the addition of the ray to prevent anything from spiking
2. feed it accordingly (maybe a little bit less, because tank is not aged yet)
3. then my nitrites will spike? as my nitrates are low adding bio spira will prevent any levels from spiking, however I would put some cheap fish in the tank for a few weeks and let the tank cycle before adding a ray. Another option is fishless cycling
4. then do like a 25% water change,
5. and keep doing it every few days until the nitrates are < 20, but > 0, and my nitrites are 0.

Does this sound about right? anything that im doing wrong? (or will be doing)
or any suggestions?
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EDIT: forgot to add do you know anybody that keeps fish tanks? You can take some media from one of their filters and use it in your filter to "jump start" the cycling process.
 
stingray94;2443342; said:
EDIT: forgot to add do you know anybody that keeps fish tanks? You can take some media from one of their filters and use it in your filter to "jump start" the cycling process.
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yea im going to use the filter from my oscar tank just for now... just to boost it up a bit...
 
skylineiz;2443365; said:
hey thanks for the reply, okay
so since i got no where else to keep the ray,
im going to have to look into this bio spara thing...

and im assuming the amonia readings have to be zero right? or as close as possible...
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yeah you want your ammonia and nitrite to both be at 0 at all times. What is very likely to happen when you add the ray is that the ammonia will spike because your filter does not have enough BB(beneficial bacteria). What happens in a cycled tank is that the bacteria in your filter breaks down ammonia(toxic) into nitrite(also toxic) which is than broken down to nitrates(much less toxic). Nitrates are removed by waterchanges. Rays produce a lot of waste for their size so when a ray is added to this tank, the filter and bacteria are not going to be able to cope with all of the waste and wont be able to break down ammonia and nitrite quick enough so the ammonia will spike.
 
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