Global doom and gloom.

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esoxlucius said:
without having real numbers to hand of the local populations of the animals that cats routinely bring home, then no one can really say, with any degree of accuracy, if they are killing these animals and placing them in real danger or whether the cats are actually just keeping the numbers in check which is what nature intended, to a degree.
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Hello; There is indeed in a natural setting a balance established between predators and prey. I guess an argument can be made that a human neighborhood is not a natural setting for what it is worth. I do think there are at least estimates as to the damage caused by pet cats but I do not have those numbers at hand. I guess my gripe is more about the well fed pet being allowed to roam and kill. I get such is in the nature of cats but will draw a distinction about including these pets into the mix of an areas "normal" predator prey relationships. As you say it is not the cat's fault but more the cat's owner at fault.
I ride a bicycle for exercise along a busy highway. I see road kill quite often. Skunks, deer, possom, racoon, dogs, cats and even birds. I guess the birds have not evolved yet to fly a bit higher over a road. I suppose if our vehicles are around long enough those that fly too low will be selected against and those who fly higher will be selected for.
My impression for some time has been that house cats are an overall negative for local wildlife. Again I cannot provide evidence for such . My believing it is true does not make it so.

esoxlucius said:
but in reality it was the lighthouse keeper who caused the ground nesting birds demise, by introducing what can only be described as an invasive species to the island mix.
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Hello; Yes the human set the stage but the cat did the deed.
 
celebrist said:
It does seem like things are coming to a head sooner rather than later
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Hello; I suppose it is a matter of perspective. Back when I was in my 20's I was thinking the bad times would hit around when I was in my 50's. I am now 73 and some bad outcomes have been started for a while but not quite as bad yet as what is likely coming. So for me it is around 20 years delayed. I am not complaining about the delay as I have had a decent quality of life in those 20 years.

I had a slight hope things would hold together for my remaining lifetime until recently. The new covid19 virus has changed things. Not so much the direct effects of the virus itself, more that the reactions seem likely to have pushed some events past their tipping point. The national debt and near zero interest rates of the USA and maybe some other countries for example. I do expect the coming inflation to eat away at my savings and already I am back to essentially no gain in terms of interest. So much for saving and doing without over decades.
 
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This thread isn't nearly as light-hearted and enjoyable as its title leads one to expect...
 
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skjl47 said:
Hello; I suppose it is a matter of perspective. Back when I was in my 20's I was thinking the bad times would hit around when I was in my 50's. I am now 73 and some bad outcomes have been started for a while but not quite as bad yet as what is likely coming. So for me it is around 20 years delayed. I am not complaining about the delay as I have had a decent quality of life in those 20 years.

I had a slight hope things would hold together for my remaining lifetime until recently. The new covid19 virus has changed things. Not so much the direct effects of the virus itself, more that the reactions seem likely to have pushed some events past their tipping point. The national debt and near zero interest rates of the USA and maybe some other countries for example. I do expect the coming inflation to eat away at my savings and already I am back to essentially no gain in terms of interest. So much for saving and doing without over decades.
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If it makes you feel any better at least all the rich elites arent losing money or going without and can fly around to wherever they want in their private jets and bypass quarantine procedures......
 
Ogertron3000 said:
If it makes you feel any better at least all the rich elites arent losing money or going without and can fly around to wherever they want in their private jets and bypass quarantine procedures......
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Hello; I started to say I already live in flyover country but realized they do not even fly over my place. Back a few decades the B-52 bombers use to make practice run at low levels from time to time. Not any more.
Rich elites getting special treatment? Who can imagine that.
 
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