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I know some people thank a bare tanks helps cut down on aggression, but I think lots of cover, like driftwood is ideal, because it breaks lines of sight, and provides hiding spots, but it is difficult to "claim," unlike, say, clay pots.

As you can see with my tank, your stock will work just fine. At times you may pick out a PITA fish, but all you have to do is sell it and get another. This is what I did to get the fish I have now. I would ditch the sunfish or give them their own tank. I had 10 longears in my 220 that were bigger than the Sals and choco and green terror and they didn't do so well, plus you will have to train them to eat pellets or whatever you feed your fish. Mine at shrimp pretty easy but that's expensive.

Any tank you setup, there can/will be a death. Happens to everyone whether they state it or not. That's just how fish are. I lost my Green Terror and male Festae due to this. It happens to everyone so don't let that discourage you. I try to stick with all South/Central/Mexico fish in the same tank but went to Madagascar with the Paratilpia's, which are mean as hell but my setup works, as you seen in my video.

Personally I don't care for tall tanks, my tank is 24" tall and my 265 is 31" I think, when you have a tall tank, all you need is a small step ladder, I use a step ladder when cleaning the 500 to reach the back, no big deal.

My fish utilize just about all the tank space, they don't just stay in one level of the water column, or tanks aren't that big for that to specifically happen, so again no need to worry about that. When I had rays I would see the cruise the top of the water in front of the circulation pump, my arro would be all over the place but mostly near the top.

I say go with what you want to do. You won't be disappointed.
 
I love tall tanks. My 360 is four feet deep. It's a PITA to reach the bottom to do any work but it looks great. Deep tanks are a great way to add water volume also. You can almost always go up when building. I have noticed that plywood tanks built on this site seem to leak over three feet deep. The most successful ones are around 30" deep. Then there’s the cost in thicker acrylic panels. I would definitely use acrylic for the safety factor. They just don’t crack. They will scratch but most public aquariums use acrylic and I think it’s the safety factor over glass. Anyway please update this thread, I’m planning a concrete build, I’m thinking around 6 feet deep but most likely the water level will by 5.5 feet. I’m going to use 4X8 foot 2” thick acrylic for the viewing windows. So if you decide to go concrete you will have my attention. Good luck!
 
Do you know off hand how thick acrylic has to be compared to glass or the cost comparison? Also what would you use to seal the acrylic to the pond liner?
 
Do you know off hand how thick acrylic has to be compared to glass or the cost comparison? Also what would you use to seal the acrylic to the pond liner?

For 36" high, you would want a minimum of 1" thick acrylic. If you end up going 42", I would go with 1.25" thick acrylic. I'm not familiar with thickness requirements for glass, but I'm with Egon...acrylic is the way to go. Supposedly it's 17x stronger than glass, it has better insulation properties and it's lighter.

I'm not sure why so many people are afraid of tall tanks. Get a large magnetic algae scraper, build a long gravel vacuum, buy a long handle net and get a 48"+ pikstick and you are set. My tank is 48" deep and I love the height. It's not much more work at all than a stubby 24" tall tank. Like everything, you just need to have the right tools for the job.

In regards to tips for your build, I would say plan to have a dedicated circuit for your heaters and another circuit to power everything else (pumps, lights etc).

Good luck with your build!
 
For 36" high, you would want a minimum of 1" thick acrylic. If you end up going 42", I would go with 1.25" thick acrylic. I'm not familiar with thickness requirements for glass, but I'm with Egon...acrylic is the way to go. Supposedly it's 17x stronger than glass, it has better insulation properties and it's lighter.

I'm not sure why so many people are afraid of tall tanks. Get a large magnetic algae scraper, build a long gravel vacuum, buy a long handle net and get a 48"+ pikstick and you are set. My tank is 48" deep and I love the height. It's not much more work at all than a stubby 24" tall tank. Like everything, you just need to have the right tools for the job.

In regards to tips for your build, I would say plan to have a dedicated circuit for your heaters and another circuit to power everything else (pumps, lights etc).

Good luck with your build!

+1 on everything above. I like the dedicated circuit idea. I have a dedicated 20amp circuit for my 4 large tanks in my living room. No issues with a shop vac or vacuum getting plugged in and dropping a circuit. Also the correct tools is key. I have 4 foot versions of everything! As far as thickness there's acrylic calculators on here just surch for it. Also acrylic is clearer than glass when you go thicker. Go acrylic just for the piece of mind :)
I like the idea of pond liner, just never could figure out how to seal it.

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I do like the idea of acrylic, because it's lighter and less breakable... But when I looked up prices, at least online the price for a piece of acrylic that size looks to be like $600-$1000. Is that normal? That is way more expensive than glass! Like 2-3 times more... If that is really the price, I cannot spend that much on the viewing panel alone!
 
The other thing I was thinking of doing was three windows that are 30"x36" for the front. I I did three separate ones I don't think it'd have to be so thick? Or would they still have to be just as thick?
 
The other thing I was thinking of doing was three windows that are 30"x36" for the front. I I did three separate ones I don't think it'd have to be so thick? Or would they still have to be just as thick?

Thickness depends on the depth of the tank (top to bottom) and the length of the panel. Having three seperate panels will save a lot for sure. Also if the panel is supported all the way around will save on thickness too :)

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