Goldfish with scale loss

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AmCarlisle

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Have you tested your water?
Yes
If yes, what is your ammonia?
6PPM
If yes, what is your nitrite?
5ppm
If yes, what is your nitrate?
40ppm
If I did not test my water...
  1. ...I recognize that I will likely be asked to do a test, and that water tests are critical for solving freshwater health problems.
Do you do water changes?
Yes
What percentage of water do you change?
31-40%
How frequently do you change your water?
Every week
If I do not change my water...
  1. ...I recognize that I will likely be recommended to do a water change, and water changes are critical for preventing future freshwater health problems.
Hello,
I have a tank with several fish in it, including 2 juvenile Oranda Goldfish. A couple of weeks ago my tank had an ammonia spike and I immediately treated it with seachem Prime and it seemed like the fish were all fine. However, I noticed one of my goldfish developed some black spots, first on her tail fin, then after another day it started showing on one side and a bit around her mouth. I thought this was due to the ammonia spike and perhaps she had ammonia burns that were healing, however NONE of the other fish have been affected, not even the other Oranda. They are all juveniles(not sure if that makes much difference in their tolerability of tank parameter changed). The goldfish seemed a bit sluggish for a day or two, but since has been totally normal in eating and everything else. However, after about 3 days of noticing the first black spots on her tail, her scales on the side that had the burn marks all fell off(where there were black scales, not the healthy scales). However, this does account for more than half of the scales on that side. I have been dosing the water with melafix to help prevent infection. Every couple of days I notice some red marks like she's maybe rubbing her side on something, but they heal up overnight. The scales have not started to grow back yet, it has been about a week since I noticed her scales gone. There are no Plecos or any fish in my tank that would eat slime coat, nor any aggressive fish and i've not seen any of my fish bothering any of the others, so I don't think this was done by another fish.

Is it possible the scales fell off from the burns? The only black marks left on her is a bit on her tail fin. The black around her mouth has totally gone. Like I said, she is acting totally normal and eating well, so i'm not immediately concerned for her health, I'm just not sure if this could be ammonia burns since no other fish were affected, or should I be looking for other possible causes??

(The results I put in for testing are from when I noticed the ammonia spike. The current levels are back to normal range)
 
6 ppm ammonia is going to do some real damage (before we get to the dangerously high nitrite as well). Sounds like ammonia burns to me. I’ve had a goldfish die of ammonia poisoning before and the fish looked like it went through a shredder.
How big is the tank and what is the full stocking?
 
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6 ppm ammonia is going to do some real damage (before we get to the dangerously high nitrite as well). Sounds like ammonia burns to me. I’ve had a goldfish die of ammonia poisoning before and the fish looked like it went through a shredder.
How big is the tank and what is the full stocking?

I dosed it with prime immediately, which detoxified the ammonia and nitrite and none of the other fish have any ammonia burns or anything. They never showed any signs of distress. Is it possible for only one fish in the entire tank to have been affected??
 
Different fish have different levels of tolerance, both between species and individual. If left that way I’m sure the others would look just as bad.
Another thing to think about is how this happened in the first place? Does ammonia always get this high or did you make some mistake this time?
Can you post pics of the fish just to confirm?
 
Different fish have different levels of tolerance, both between species and individual. If left that way I’m sure the others would look just as bad.
Another thing to think about is how this happened in the first place? Does ammonia always get this high or did you make some mistake this time?
Can you post pics of the fish just to confirm?

I understand that, it was just strange to me that the other oranda wasn't affected. It was my mistake! I was feeding too much and a snail had died and I didn't realize it right away.
Yes I can post a pic. I put her in my little breeder just to take the picture and theres a flake of food in front of her eye which is why it looks a little odd. You can see the black stripe on her tail fin and one other very small spot on the other side of her tail on the bottom edge. That's the only black that's left. And then obviously you can see where she lost her scales. 20220404_141432.jpg
 
How big is the tank? You must have fed a lot
That definitely doesn’t look inflicted from another fish.
Looks like ammonia burns to me. I’m not sure what else will slough off scales like that.
 
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