Good frogs for a desk top viv

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Wiggles92 said:
Don't emperor scorpions need heat for long-term success?
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Mine do fine at room temp. But then again living in FL, my room temp is rarely below 75ºF
 
Ok. The room temp will be around 70 year round. It's a basement room so even in the summer it's rare to get over 72 in it. I was originally looking into some of the flat rocks red claws or burrowing scorps since they don't need much height to be happy or heat. I have a roach colony so if their smaller critters it doesn't matter. I normally can find around 30 pinhead sized nymphs a week.


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Since you're considering animals other than frogs, how about a rosehair tarantula (Grammostola rosea) or another medium-sized species of New World tarantula? They do fine at room temperature and can tolerate some pretty low temperatures as well as higher temperatures to a lesser extent. They don't require anything more than a standard 5 gallon aquarium with some substrate, hide, and water dish, and only need fed every few weeks as adults (in order to prevent obesity & a shortened life space).
 
I was just going to ask about tarantulas! I did some research on low maintenance pets and have crossed frogs off unless something wacky happens and I can find a small cold dwelling/mountain species that's easy to care for. Anyway, I'm now looking a lot more into scorpions and Tarantulas along with salamanders. I read that most salamanders are good at mid 60's and so are most t's. I just dont know about the height, remember this is a Rubbermaid under a desk, it's only about 5" tall not a full 10" aquarium. So with that height would any t really work, that's not really any room to burrow...


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Experiment397 said:
I was just going to ask about tarantulas! I did some research on low maintenance pets and have crossed frogs off unless something wacky happens and I can find a small cold dwelling/mountain species that's easy to care for. Anyway, I'm now looking a lot more into scorpions and Tarantulas along with salamanders. I read that most salamanders are good at mid 60's and so are most t's. I just dont know about the height, remember this is a Rubbermaid under a desk, it's only about 5" tall not a full 10" aquarium. So with that height would any t really work, that's not really any room to burrow...

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That will work for some tarantulas. In the case of terrestrial tarantulas, the idea is to keep the height of the enclosure (from the top to the substrate) at or below the tarantulas leg span but at least 1/3 of its leg span. Some species do not burrow and/or just need a hide, so they will be visible most of the time.

I'm not sure on the salamanders, but I know that there should be some smaller species that will work well.

Also, why the switch to the Rubbermaid? It's not going to be as aesthetically pleasing as an aquarium.
 
I don't know of any tarantulas that burrow and most of the beginner species are terrestrial. an enclosure that size would be fine.
 
Also, keep in mind that you'll have to take note of the size of the tarantula should you decide to order one online as a lot of them are sold as little spiderlings that are less than an inch long. However, you can usually get them much cheaper as spiderlings and can watch them grow up, so that's always a nice bonus especially if you end up with all males (since males don't live as long as females) whereas if you bought an adult male at a pet store it might have a year or two left of life if you're lucky. Females are pretty long-lived, and some will live upwards of 20 years if cared for properly.

Check out my tarantula thread for some ideas; please note that some of the species on there are not beginner-friendly and/or will outgrow a 5 gallon aquarium/Rubbermaid. Let me know if you have any questions on specific species.
 
It being a Rubbermaid doesn't matter. Its going onto the bottom of the desk like a rack drawer. Then you look down through the glass panels on the top of the desk into the tank. So a Rubbermaid is the best bet. It's light and shallow. I will read up on the t's. I really like the look of the brachypelma vagans. And the grammostola pulchripes. Btw I would be buying the t from my lrs, they carry around 20+ types of t at all times. the owner is addicted to t's and kingsnakes so I can get pretty much any t I want without having to worry about it being a tiny sling and most are sexed that he sells. Some are even his own babies from his breeders


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