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The roar to impeach President George Bush on the grounds of “high crimes and misdemeanors” in relation to his handling of the Iraq war is growing louder. From war activist Cindy Sheehan to former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark to the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, more and more are calling for the ouster of America’s 43rd president.


“If they wrote articles of impeachment for President Bill Clinton because he was involved in inappropriate behavior in the Oval Office, and then lied about it; if they can write articles of impeachment for those so-called high crimes and misdemeanors, what should they do about a man lying to the American people, deceiving the members of Congress, prosecuting an unjust war?,” asked Min. Farrakhan on Feb. 25 at the Nation of Islam’s annual Saviours’ Day convention in Detroit, Mich.

“Is that not only reason to impeach him, but to set down his whole administration? Set down his whole administration. All of them are liars. All of them are murderers,” Min. Farrakhan stated, adding, “So you Democrats—stop pussyfooting around with the Republicans. Do what the people voted that you should do: Make a change in this world. You say if you pulled the troops out it would embolden America’s enemies because it would say that the will of the American people has been broken. The will of the American people started to break when they found out you got them into this mess on the basis of a lie. People naturally can’t support a lie.”

Close to one million people have expressed their discontent with this administration by voting to impeach President Bush at votetoimpeach.org. The votes have no affect on his impeachment, but they are a gauge of public sentiment. Thousands are coming to Washington, D.C., Mar. 17, to protest at the Pentagon in opposition the war and call for the President’s impeachment.

“On this the 4th anniversary of the “Shock and Awe” invasion of Iraq, and 40 years after the historic 1967 March on the Pentagon, We the People, will be insisting on the immediate end to the war against Iraq. Bring your friends, neighbors and loved ones and join us in the March on the Pentagon,” explained Mr. Clark at a Mar. 6, press conference at the National Press Club.

Ms. Sheehan also spoke. “One of the reasons we are marching on the pentagon on Mar. 17 is for impeachment and accountability…The Bush regime has committed so many crimes against humanity; they are enemies of humanity and that is one of the reasons we must march... The real issues are ending the occupation of Iraq to save our soldiers and save the people of Iraq and the real issue is not to invade Iran….We must march… .”

Presidential impeachment is easier said than done. Congress has only held discussions about impeachment four times and neither resulted in an American President being forced from office.

According to historian Robert Longley:

• Andrew Johnson was actually impeached when Congress became unhappy with the way he was dealing with some post-Civil War matters, but President Johnson was acquitted in the Senate by one vote and remained in office.

• Congress introduced a resolution to impeach President John Tyler over state’s rights issues, but the resolution failed.

• Congress was debating his impeachment over the Watergate break-in when President Richard Nixon resigned.

• President William J. Clinton was impeached by the House on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in relationship to his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. He was eventually acquitted by the Senate.

Impeachment is handled by the full Congress. The House votes on the articles of impeachment and the Senate votes to impeach.

“Now, the least the Democrats should do, if you don’t want to impeach him, censor him. Say to the world; ‘something went wrong in our leadership and we repent of our wrongdoing.’ The whole world loved America. The whole world was with you after 9/11. You squandered that, but you can get it back, but you’ve got to do the right thing and you’ve got to do it in time,” said Min. Farrakhan.

Military families are growing increasingly bitter and resentful for the loss of their loved ones on behalf of a lie. They will also be marching on the Pentagon. The following is an excerpt from their statement in support of the march:

“The war is an unmitigated disaster for the people of Iraq and the people of the United States. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed and Iraq society torn apart. More than 3,100 U.S. soldiers have died and “non-mortal casualties” are nearing 55,000. The cost of the war is now over $8 billion per month, $280 million per day and $12 million per hour. All of this death, suffering and loss for a war justified by lies and deception.

“A growing number of families with loved ones in Iraq are now questioning the reasons they are there. Every death or life-changing injury devastates a family, friends and the community they come from. Every redeployment means months more of worry.

“It is for these reasons that active duty service members, their families and veterans can and must play a vital role in ending this unjust war. Join us at the Pentagon on Saturday, March 17!”



© Copyright 2007 FCN Publishing, FinalCall.com
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All you can really do is grit your teeth, take a deep breath, unbutton your pants and smile.
 
Things that make you think. (2004)

1. There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January.....
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.
That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.

2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

FDR...led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam conflict in 1961. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost.
An average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.
Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

3. In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries,
crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot.
Captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took
Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took
Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.

Wait, there's more.......................Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living.
This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This is a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of our military.

JOHN GLENN ON THE SENATE FLOOR Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Senator Howard Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program.

It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line.

It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.

I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies ? in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job.

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their Dads didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum; you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN - who held REAL jobs. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country possible. I HAVE held a job, Howard! What about you?"

For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.
 
MrFisher;773295; said:
The roar to impeach President George Bush on the grounds of “high crimes and misdemeanors” in relation to his handling of the Iraq war is growing louder. From war activist Cindy Sheehan to former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark to the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, more and more are calling for the ouster of America’s 43rd president.


“If they wrote articles of impeachment for President Bill Clinton because he was involved in inappropriate behavior in the Oval Office, and then lied about it; if they can write articles of impeachment for those so-called high crimes and misdemeanors, what should they do about a man lying to the American people, deceiving the members of Congress, prosecuting an unjust war?,” asked Min. Farrakhan on Feb. 25 at the Nation of Islam’s annual Saviours’ Day convention in Detroit, Mich.

“Is that not only reason to impeach him, but to set down his whole administration? Set down his whole administration. All of them are liars. All of them are murderers,” Min. Farrakhan stated, adding, “So you Democrats—stop pussyfooting around with the Republicans. Do what the people voted that you should do: Make a change in this world. You say if you pulled the troops out it would embolden America’s enemies because it would say that the will of the American people has been broken. The will of the American people started to break when they found out you got them into this mess on the basis of a lie. People naturally can’t support a lie.”

Close to one million people have expressed their discontent with this administration by voting to impeach President Bush at votetoimpeach.org. The votes have no affect on his impeachment, but they are a gauge of public sentiment. Thousands are coming to Washington, D.C., Mar. 17, to protest at the Pentagon in opposition the war and call for the President’s impeachment.

“On this the 4th anniversary of the “Shock and Awe” invasion of Iraq, and 40 years after the historic 1967 March on the Pentagon, We the People, will be insisting on the immediate end to the war against Iraq. Bring your friends, neighbors and loved ones and join us in the March on the Pentagon,” explained Mr. Clark at a Mar. 6, press conference at the National Press Club.

Ms. Sheehan also spoke. “One of the reasons we are marching on the pentagon on Mar. 17 is for impeachment and accountability…The Bush regime has committed so many crimes against humanity; they are enemies of humanity and that is one of the reasons we must march... The real issues are ending the occupation of Iraq to save our soldiers and save the people of Iraq and the real issue is not to invade Iran….We must march… .”

Presidential impeachment is easier said than done. Congress has only held discussions about impeachment four times and neither resulted in an American President being forced from office.

According to historian Robert Longley:

• Andrew Johnson was actually impeached when Congress became unhappy with the way he was dealing with some post-Civil War matters, but President Johnson was acquitted in the Senate by one vote and remained in office.

• Congress introduced a resolution to impeach President John Tyler over state’s rights issues, but the resolution failed.

• Congress was debating his impeachment over the Watergate break-in when President Richard Nixon resigned.

• President William J. Clinton was impeached by the House on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in relationship to his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. He was eventually acquitted by the Senate.

Impeachment is handled by the full Congress. The House votes on the articles of impeachment and the Senate votes to impeach.

“Now, the least the Democrats should do, if you don’t want to impeach him, censor him. Say to the world; ‘something went wrong in our leadership and we repent of our wrongdoing.’ The whole world loved America. The whole world was with you after 9/11. You squandered that, but you can get it back, but you’ve got to do the right thing and you’ve got to do it in time,” said Min. Farrakhan.

Military families are growing increasingly bitter and resentful for the loss of their loved ones on behalf of a lie. They will also be marching on the Pentagon. The following is an excerpt from their statement in support of the march:

“The war is an unmitigated disaster for the people of Iraq and the people of the United States. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed and Iraq society torn apart. More than 3,100 U.S. soldiers have died and “non-mortal casualties” are nearing 55,000. The cost of the war is now over $8 billion per month, $280 million per day and $12 million per hour. All of this death, suffering and loss for a war justified by lies and deception.

“A growing number of families with loved ones in Iraq are now questioning the reasons they are there. Every death or life-changing injury devastates a family, friends and the community they come from. Every redeployment means months more of worry.

“It is for these reasons that active duty service members, their families and veterans can and must play a vital role in ending this unjust war. Join us at the Pentagon on Saturday, March 17!”



© Copyright 2007 FCN Publishing, FinalCall.com
_________________
This is the greatest lesson of life, God, earth: Resistance is futile.
All you can really do is grit your teeth, take a deep breath, unbutton your pants and smile.

I want milk.:)
 
DavidW;774316; said:
germany and Japan were allies...Detroit is NOT a 'fair' city.....
Korea and Vietnam were proxy wars ( and the US is still technically at war with N.Korea)
US has been in Iraq now longer than it was in WW2.
Bush can in no way claim credit for Libya giving up nuclear ambitions.
The Taliban is resurgent.
Al Quaeda is not crushed.
who killed 300,000 of his own people I am guessing refers to sadam hussein.
More people than that have died under the US/Allied occupation of Iraq.
Which countries are liberated? Iraq and Afghanistan? you got to be kidding right?

hence most of that post from Oddball is a piece of propagandist nonsense or in the vernacular, " a crock of....."

:ROFL: so is everything you post:ROFL:
 
DavidW;774667; said:
a point by point rebuttal of everything I post would therefore be in order , if you have the intellectual capability, which I doubt.
btw, Only bad comedians laugh at their own jokes
:ROFL:
 
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 
DavidW;774316; said:
germany and Japan were allies...Detroit is NOT a 'fair' city.....
Korea and Vietnam were proxy wars ( and the US is still technically at war with N.Korea)
US has been in Iraq now longer than it was in WW2.
Bush can in no way claim credit for Libya giving up nuclear ambitions.
The Taliban is resurgent.
Al Quaeda is not crushed.
who killed 300,000 of his own people I am guessing refers to sadam hussein.
More people than that have died under the US/Allied occupation of Iraq.
Which countries are liberated? Iraq and Afghanistan? you got to be kidding right?

hence most of that post from Oddball is a piece of propagandist nonsense or in the vernacular, " a crock of....."

HA HA HA :ROFL:

Here is what I have learned...

Apparently "allies" like to bomb the hell out of each other. Thats what makes them allies I guess.

Detroit no longer counts as a US city.

I learned that "proxy war" means they don't count as a war... or something.

The US has been in Iraq longer then WW2........and???.........

Libya just decided to "play nice"

Go Taliban and Al Queda

Sadam is POSSIBLY the guy that killed 300K of his people....which murdering 300,000 people isn't that bad.....cause my personal evil meter says 500,000 people is bad.

More people died in Iraq then SOMETHING....

Oh yeah one more............. women and kids that are free to walk in the streets without getting murdered because they are showing their face or kids that are fearful for there life has nothing to do with liberation. They would rather be in a society that they are 2/3 human and killed in the streets for show.













oh....and Oddball is the devil.
 
DavidW;774667; said:
a point by point rebuttal of everything I post would therefore be in order , if you have the intellectual capability, which I doubt.
btw, Only bad comedians laugh at their own jokes

I honestly am not going to waste the time. Everything people say that you do not believe, is called a lie. As I'm sure YOU already know, you are the most intellegent person on MFK, possibly the world..... It seems to me that about 98% of your posts are trying to bash GWB or anything remotely close to a Republican ideal. There seems to be no convincing you that something may be true if you do not already believe it. I personally don't care, you are entitled to believe whatever delusional source you get your facts from. I'm not about to say GWB is one of our best presidents or even one of the better ones. Seriously though I'm just sick and tired of hearing these people ripping our president when IMO if we want a positive outcome the citizens support would help a great deal. It just drives me crazy to see these people on BOTH sides being so extreme with their opinions. If there was a little more middle ground and bipartisanship this country could be SOOO much better in so many ways. Your statements irritate me but so do those of the far right like Limbaugh (please don't go on a rant about him cause I will likely feel the same and it will be a waste of keystrokes). IMO it's people like that, that hold this country back from reaching it's full potential, even though it is already one of the greatest countries in the world (If anybody that reads this doesn't feel that way then quit whining and MOVE to a different one).

If you feel like making fun of me then please feel free. Maybe you can doubt my intelligence again (still? however you feel) or come up some almost witty comment to attempt to make fun of me. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm guessing instead you'll pull some left wing "facts" out or totally change the subject. I don't know, whatever I have said my peace.
 
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