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Drop Eye

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Drop Eye is mainly seen amongst the Arowana family, including Silver Arowana and Arapaima. It is so called as the eye will appear to bulge out and point downwards. There is no cure for this condition, it is irreversible.

Silver Arowana with Drop Eye


Causes

It seems this is caused by several contributing factors including bad breeding and a fatty diet of fatty foods such as Goldfish.
Prevention

Do not feed these fish a fatty diet, make sure their food is as close to what they'd eat in the wild as possible and very lean.
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Osteoglossum bicirrhosum

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Silver Arowana Silver Arowana Species Osteoglossum bicirrhosum Difficulty Challenging Min. Tank Size 946.353 liters
946,352.945 mL 250 US Gallons (946.4L)
Size 76.2 cm 25-30 " (63.5-76.2cm)
pH 6.0 - 7.2 Temp. 297.15 K
75.2 °F
534.87 °R 301.15 K
82.4 °F
542.07 °R24 -28 °C (75.2-82.4°F)
Water Hardness 3-10
Stocking Ratio 1:1 M:F Availability Common Diet Carnivore
Live Foods
Other (See article)
Life Span 8-25 years
Contents


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] Alternative names

Silver Arowana, Dragon Fish, Arawana ] Other Scientific Names

Isochnosoma bicirrhosum, Osteoglossum vandelli ] Sexing

Very difficult to sex visually. Mature females are generally more rounded in the body and have a slightly shorter anal fin. [] Breeding

Arowana form pairs in the juvenile stages. Typically a commercial breeder will have a large group in a pond or concrete tank. Groups of up to 20 will be in this area. As courting begins, pairs will begin to form and the male will attempt to move in close proximity to the female. If the female will accept the male, the pair will swim in tight semi circles. The female will drop her eggs and the male will fertilize them and store the fertilized eggs in his buccal cavity. The males will carry the eggs and incubate them. Fry will live out of the fathers mouth for the beginning very similar to what is found in mouthbrooding cichlids. Fry are generally considered safe to keep once the yolk sac is fully absorbed. Young Arowana's should not be bought when their yolk sac is still attached. [edit] Tank compatibility

Arowana being a fish that inhabits the surface area, most bottom dwelling fish are considered to be compatible. This does not go without exception. Arowana do not normally feed on other fish, but if the caregiver does not establish a proper diet early on, Arowana have a tendency to stick to one diet. Changing an Arowana's diet usually involves starving off the food source they prefer, and continual offering of the foods you wish it to eat. Fish that reach bigger sizes are usually a good choice to tank mate with an Arowana. Schooling fish offer safety of the group. Mid sized Tetra's, Silver Dollars, Tin Foil Barbs, bottom dwellers, Freshwater Rays and semi-aggressive large South American Cichlids will work out with South American Arowana. You'd want to avoid the African Cichlids for the most part, as the higher PH and hardness is likely to cause stress or death of a South American Arowana. [edit] Diet

Feeder fish, or other type of smaller fish are not a good choice for two reasons. One being that feeder fish found commercially typically have low level of care given to them, harbour many unwanted pathogens, and are very low in nutritional value. Secondly, teaching an Arowana to eat other fish will promote the onset of Drop Eye. Arowana are primarily a surface dwelling fish. Their diet will consist of food that is visible on the surface. At younger stages of life, Arowana would feed on water bugs, insect larvae or anything else it could fit in it's mouth. As the Arowana ages and the mouth grows, it could well move up to rodents and birds that might inhabit the surface area. This fish's natural habitat is the Amazon River Basin. In a tank, the caregiver must consider the diet. Frozen bloodworm cubes or brine shrimp cubes would be a good food source for a young Arowana as well as baby crickets. As your Arowana ages, move up to larger crickets, shrimp, mussels, cockles and frogs. The key to feeding the Arowana is keeping foods on the surface. Feeding regime

Feed once a day. These fish are prone to Drop Eye in captivity, so feed them carefully. Environment Specifics

A laterally long tank is a must for this fish, width is more important than depth, the Silver Arowana must have room to turn around as it's not very flexible! A secure lid is a must as the Silver Arowana is purely top-dwelling and can jump. If this fish is kept in a tank too small for it and it's not able to turn around it may suffer from "gill curl", where the gill plates curl outwards and will cause the fish to have to swim backwards in order to breathe properly and susceptible to gill infections. [] Behaviour

Most are entirely carnivorous, often being specialized surface feeders. They are excellent jumpers and it has been reported that Osteoglossum species have been seen leaping more than 6 feet (almost 2 metres) from the water surface to pick off insects from overhanging branches in South America, hence the nickname "Water monkeys". Arowanas have been rumoured to capture prey as large as low flying bats and small birds. All species are large, and the Arapaima is a contender for the world's largest freshwater fish. ]Identification

An elongate fish with a large upturned mouth and two "feelers" on its lip. The Silver Arowana in silver in colour through the body and fins with large scales. The caudal fin is small with both anal and dorsal fins extending along half of the fish's body. A white arowana, or "Snow Arowana"/"Platinum Arowana" has been seen, this is a rare leusistic morph. It must not be confused with the Black Arowana. The Black Arowana looks almost identical to the Silver Arowana, as the fish ages the eye bands and dark colouration are lost, leaving adult fish a darkish silvery colour. Most Black Arowanas retain a silver-blue hue in their fins. ] Species Notes

The Silver Arowana in the wild is under threat from over collecting. Collectors will kill adult fish to collect their young, as Arowana are defensive mouth brooders. If you are purchasing a Silver Arowana, please make sure you try and get captive bred. ] Pictures



Silver Arowana




Snow Arowana


[edit] Videos

In large community tank with other fish including Pangasius:
Osteoglossum bicirrhosum

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Silver Arowana Silver Arowana Species Osteoglossum bicirrhosum Difficulty Challenging Min. Tank Size 946.353 liters
946,352.945 mL 250 US Gallons (946.4L)
Size 76.2 cm 25-30 " (63.5-76.2cm)
pH 6.0 - 7.2 Temp. 297.15 K
75.2 °F
534.87 °R 301.15 K
82.4 °F
542.07 °R24 -28 °C (75.2-82.4°F)
Water Hardness 3-10
Stocking Ratio 1:1 M:F Availability Common Diet Carnivore
Live Foods
Other (See article)
Life Span 8-25 years
Contents

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[edit] Alternative names

Silver Arowana, Dragon Fish, Arawana [edit] Other Scientific Names

Isochnosoma bicirrhosum, Osteoglossum vandelli [edit] Sexing

Very difficult to sex visually. Mature females are generally more rounded in the body and have a slightly shorter anal fin. ] Breeding

Arowana form pairs in the juvenile stages. Typically a commercial breeder will have a large group in a pond or concrete tank. Groups of up to 20 will be in this area. As courting begins, pairs will begin to form and the male will attempt to move in close proximity to the female. If the female will accept the male, the pair will swim in tight semi circles. The female will drop her eggs and the male will fertilize them and store the fertilized eggs in his buccal cavity. The males will carry the eggs and incubate them. Fry will live out of the fathers mouth for the beginning very similar to what is found in mouthbrooding cichlids. Fry are generally considered safe to keep once the yolk sac is fully absorbed. Young Arowana's should not be bought when their yolk sac is still attached. [edit] Tank compatibility

Arowana being a fish that inhabits the surface area, most bottom dwelling fish are considered to be compatible. This does not go without exception. Arowana do not normally feed on other fish, but if the caregiver does not establish a proper diet early on, Arowana have a tendency to stick to one diet. Changing an Arowana's diet usually involves starving off the food source they prefer, and continual offering of the foods you wish it to eat. Fish that reach bigger sizes are usually a good choice to tank mate with an Arowana. Schooling fish offer safety of the group. Mid sized Tetra's, Silver Dollars, Tin Foil Barbs, bottom dwellers, Freshwater Rays and semi-aggressive large South American Cichlids will work out with South American Arowana. You'd want to avoid the African Cichlids for the most part, as the higher PH and hardness is likely to cause stress or death of a South American Arowana. [edit] Diet

Feeder fish, or other type of smaller fish are not a good choice for two reasons. One being that feeder fish found commercially typically have low level of care given to them, harbour many unwanted pathogens, and are very low in nutritional value. Secondly, teaching an Arowana to eat other fish will promote the onset of Drop Eye. Arowana are primarily a surface dwelling fish. Their diet will consist of food that is visible on the surface. At younger stages of life, Arowana would feed on water bugs, insect larvae or anything else it could fit in it's mouth. As the Arowana ages and the mouth grows, it could well move up to rodents and birds that might inhabit the surface area. This fish's natural habitat is the Amazon River Basin. In a tank, the caregiver must consider the diet. Frozen bloodworm cubes or brine shrimp cubes would be a good food source for a young Arowana as well as baby crickets. As your Arowana ages, move up to larger crickets, shrimp, mussels, cockles and frogs. The key to feeding the Arowana is keeping foods on the surface. [edit] Feeding regime

Feed once a day. These fish are prone to Drop Eye in captivity, so feed them carefully.] Environment Specifics

A laterally long tank is a must for this fish, width is more important than depth, the Silver Arowana must have room to turn around as it's not very flexible! A secure lid is a must as the Silver Arowana is purely top-dwelling and can jump. If this fish is kept in a tank too small for it and it's not able to turn around it may suffer from "gill curl", where the gill plates curl outwards and will cause the fish to have to swim backwards in order to breathe properly and susceptible to gill infections. [] Behaviour

Most are entirely carnivorous, often being specialized surface feeders. They are excellent jumpers and it has been reported that Osteoglossum species have been seen leaping more than 6 feet (almost 2 metres) from the water surface to pick off insects from overhanging branches in South America, hence the nickname "Water monkeys". Arowanas have been rumoured to capture prey as large as low flying bats and small birds. All species are large, and the Arapaima is a contender for the world's largest freshwater fish. [ Identification

An elongate fish with a large upturned mouth and two "feelers" on its lip. The Silver Arowana in silver in colour through the body and fins with large scales. The caudal fin is small with both anal and dorsal fins extending along half of the fish's body. A white arowana, or "Snow Arowana"/"Platinum Arowana" has been seen, this is a rare leusistic morph. It must not be confused with the Black Arowana. The Black Arowana looks almost identical to the Silver Arowana, as the fish ages the eye bands and dark colouration are lost, leaving adult fish a darkish silvery colour. Most Black Arowanas retain a silver-blue hue in their fins. Species Notes

The Silver Arowana in the wild is under threat from over collecting. Collectors will kill adult fish to collect their young, as Arowana are defensive mouth brooders. If you are purchasing a Silver Arowana, please make sure you try and get captive bred.] Pictures



Silver Arowana




Snow Arowana


[edit] Videos

In large community tank with other fish including Pangasius:
 
I have two silvers, one I adopted with DE. The other develop DE in each eye on seperate occassions after suffering severe head trauma. The DE developed within hours of the head trauma.
 
i saw a special on tv that showed wild adult arowanas and some had drop eye.

i have also heard you can cure it with an operation involving a needle and removing excess fat from behind the eye.
 
MsMassPoly;2291162; said:
i saw a special on tv that showed wild adult arowanas and some had drop eye.

i have also heard you can cure it with an operation involving a needle and removing excess fat from behind the eye.
for now all i want to do is concentrate on what may be the cause... even though i know i will probably never know... but darn well will try..so okay about info about operations but concentrate on prevention... with comparison of all of these guys.. i would have liked to see that show.
 
Bderick67;2291134; said:
I have two silvers, one I adopted with DE. The other develop DE in each eye on seperate occassions after suffering severe head trauma. The DE developed within hours of the head trauma.
I am thinking that this is a big possible cause..wonder if the ones that have never had a head injury or jumped and hit the top are included in the ones that do not have drop eye... lets just keep talking and digging for info... thanks..
 
I am now raising two new silvers in different tanks,so far no jumps or head bangs that i know of and there eyes are both fine.

i have had one of my big silvers get bit in his eye and it did not drop but healed up nice.
 
Im trying a new tactic on my silver aro. Since its fat tover the eye that makes them look down am i trying a diet. But the problem is hes smarter then me and takes more food then i want to feed him .I got Asian aros and rays in the tank. Ím feeding all fishes daily beside from the silver unless he manage to get a small shrimp from time to time. Hes +35cm now so i know hes far from fully grown. But both eyes are perfect atm. Im using shrimps and herring as food for them. The herring is for the rays but the aros sumtimes get small parts aswell.. Ill post a pic when photobucket is up again, down to maintenace atm =(

tank size: 100x30x30"
tank mates: 4x Asian aros, 2x motoro, 1x gibbiceps
food: Shrimps, white fish (herring) trying pellets but its only silver that eat it so ive stoped

there is no fighting in the tank and asain aros is 11-12" or so.
Ive had him since baby
 
MsMassPoly;2292232; said:
I am now raising two new silvers in different tanks,so far no jumps or head bangs that i know of and there eyes are both fine.

i have had one of my big silvers get bit in his eye and it did not drop but healed up nice.
i sure hope this continues.... maybe there will be some thing special we can figure out in time... but we need time... see how it goes down the road.. i hope it continues... more then you know... would love to be able to help towards this..
 
Ok here is the pic. And btw the lights are of normaly, ive only got them on when im home and i live at my GF house every 2 weeks. So that means max 5h a day every 2 weeks


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Freke;2293000; said:
Im trying a new tactic on my silver aro. Since its fat tover the eye that makes them look down am i trying a diet. But the problem is hes smarter then me and takes more food then i want to feed him .I got Asian aros and rays in the tank. Ím feeding all fishes daily beside from the silver unless he manage to get a small shrimp from time to time. Hes +35cm now so i know hes far from fully grown. But both eyes are perfect atm. Im using shrimps and herring as food for them. The herring is for the rays but the aros sumtimes get small parts aswell.. Ill post a pic when photobucket is up again, down to maintenace atm =(

tank size: 100x30x30"
tank mates: 4x Asian aros, 2x motoro, 1x gibbiceps
food: Shrimps, white fish (herring) trying pellets but its only silver that eat it so ive stoped

there is no fighting in the tank and asain aros is 11-12" or so.
Ive had him since baby
looking forward to seeing him.. i hope it continues that he is perfect.. thanks for info,...
 
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