I have used them actually. So I can tell you from personal experience that they are cheap, unreliable and better used for housing amphibians. You'd have to be mildly retarded to want to house a snake in one.
What is not being heard here?My baby was in a large tank,he would get nice and warm in his hide.At night when I would go in the room he was climbing on the branches and utilizing every space in the tank.He would sometimes hide on the left side,sometimes on the right side.He would pop out of the substrate many places.Other times he would go and low and behold,find his fav hide spot and sleep.How does this not proove you wrong?Ive had rosies,corns,red tail boas,hog island boas,green tree pythons,solomon island boas,green vine snakes,ball pythons,king snakes,brazilian rainbows and some rat snake.What exactly is it that to you stresses them out from a big space.Tell me please why its different from in the wild.As far as snuggling like I said about my BPs.Every time I would go in the room and they were sleeping they were coiled up together.How in gods name is that passive fighting?I see snakes in the wild in person I dont need discovery channel,they are usualy wandering around .116;2086075; said:Actually I can. Snakes are my forte. Rant all you want and it wont prove a damn thing. Nor will it give you anymore experience than I have. We're not talking about ball pythons. Were talking about CORN SNAKES. And babies at that. Keeping a baby corn snake in anything bigger than a 10 gallon is just excessive. They wont notice the 10 gallon difference. 10 gallons is PLENTY of room for a baby.
And yes. Actually I have housed many snakes in a large enclosures. And I didn't do it for the snakes sake either. It was just something bigger and fancier to look at. The snake's don't really care. At all. Argue all you want. Unless you can pull a harry potter and ask the snake itself, you're never gonna prove your ridiculous "theory."
As for the whole snakes in the wild issue... Maybe you should watch the discovery channel. Watch snakes in the wild. They are always cramped even in their natural habitat. They're crammed under rocks, tangled in a tree or hiding in 3 inches of dirty mucky pound water and plants. You wont see them using the "vast area." They stick to their cramped hiding spots.
I grew out of the Ball python phase when I was 13. They're a drag in my opinion. You don't need to send me pictures or brag about how well you take care of them. I honestly couldn't care less. This thread isn't about you and your ball pythons. It's about Corn snakes and whether someone should keep them in a 10 or a 20. And the bottom line is you should keep a young corn snake in 10 gallon for ATLEAST few months. Monitor him and get to know his personality. Then if you feel the need to,(Because godforbid peta comes to your house and sees your poor abused baby cornsnake in an ity bity 10 gallon xD) bump him up to the 20 but give him lots of hiding places.
116;2086179; said:Oh and louie I never tried to justify keeping a snake in a small enclosure. If you think 10 Gallons is a small for a baby corn snake, you've obviously never kept them.
116;2086191; said:Oh and my info comes from pure experience. Forgot to answer that last Q.
FISH4LIFE;2087654; said:OK I will probably put it in the 10 gallon and eventually move it up to different size tanks as it grows. These other containers are too hard to find and they only come in very small sizes (smallest 3)
FISH4LIFE;2087753; said:I have the metal screen top but no clips could i put some rocks on the ege so it would not be able to lift it