Here is a topic, were I may get yelled at or cursed at? I hope not, as I have never experianced any disrespect, nor given it, on this site. Ciclasoma sp. grammods. I believe some call it "Mexican Flag" Cichlid? I guess if you look close, there is some "green", white and red?? Honestly I think it is a silly name. I am sure there are other common names for it, anyone care to share those?? I am a biologist, which means squat, but I have never really favored common names, since many apply to more than one fish. Some work, like Oscars, and even "wolf Cichlid" for the dovii, which is a contributer to where I am going with all this. Again I prefer the use of the sceintific (taxonomic) name, but if we are going to use common names, should we not have better ones than some that we now use? In an article I once read, it stated that the grammodes, is like a smaller version of a dovii. If you look close, there are many similarities?? To get to the point, a dovii is commonly reffered to as "wolf" cichlid, and if the grammodes looks like a smaller dovii, would the name of "wolverine" cichlid be better than Mexican Flag Cichlid, or any other? Many of you may just have rolled your eyes. I am not a fan of Xmen or comics, but to me it sounds better, tougher? A wolverine and a wolf are not of the same Taxonomic Family, but of the same Order (Carnivore), so it kinda makes scense to me. Again, this may sound silly, but it has been in my head for a couple of years, and thought I would bring it up. By the way, nothing against the real Mexican flag. For those who have met me know that I am of Mexican descent. Any thoughts on this odd subject?
Grammodes common name suggestion
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I would be in favor of calling the grammodes a "wolverine" cichlid. The dovii and grammodes do share some similarities, but are really not that closely related genetically (relative to other cichlids of course). I tend to use the species name a lot, especially with species that have not been well described.
It's not Cichlasoma sp. grammodes it is Cichlasoma grammodes. (could be moved to Nandopsis, but that's a entirely different conversation) There's a difference. sp. is used for those fish that are not named yet. Like, Herichthys sp. turquoise.
I get what you're saying about common names, but everyone I've ever spoken to about grammodes refers to them by grammodes not mexican flag or some other name. Same thing with dovii. I never hear wolf cichlid any more. It's always dovii.
I get what you're saying about common names, but everyone I've ever spoken to about grammodes refers to them by grammodes not mexican flag or some other name. Same thing with dovii. I never hear wolf cichlid any more. It's always dovii.
Call them whatever you want! That's the glory of common names...
I'm personally going to call grammodes fruitycakes, as it's the holidays and if I'm drunk enough and squint my grammodes looks like a small aquatic fruit cake.
After seeing all the headaches that common names cause in taxonomy I'd really rather not try to spice up some cichlids with "better" sounding names. I mean, what's wrong with calling exC. grammodes "grammodes"? I've also seen them listed as Sieve cichlids.
I'm personally going to call grammodes fruitycakes, as it's the holidays and if I'm drunk enough and squint my grammodes looks like a small aquatic fruit cake.
After seeing all the headaches that common names cause in taxonomy I'd really rather not try to spice up some cichlids with "better" sounding names. I mean, what's wrong with calling exC. grammodes "grammodes"? I've also seen them listed as Sieve cichlids.
nolapete;2567145; said:
Technically it's exCichlasoma or 'Cichlasoma' grammodes. Cichlasoma is restricted to a group of species related to the type species of the genus, Cichlasoma bimaculatum. The "ex" or parenthesis just means they haven't found a new genus for it to go into yet.
Exactly! In example, I never refer to my festae as red terrors. You don't see synspilum referred to as quetzal cichlids any more either. Common names are out for most IMHO with exception for cichlids that have been around in the hobby forever like jack dempseys, firemouths, etc.
Modest_Man;2567174; said:
My comment was on the use of "sp." You are correct in regard to ex or quoted for Cichlasoma.
Sorry, I meant Ex-Cchlasoma grammodes, like my friend Juan Miguel Artigas Azas is quoting in Cichlid room.Thanks.
nolapete;2567145; said:
I agree, and I always refer to the fish with the taxonomic name, just a silly thought, because I do see common names on Rapps and Conkels and others price list.
Modest_Man;2567161; said: