Green terror male versus female

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The measurements of the male is 14 centimetres and the new “female” is about half his size. So they have a bit grow, if i read a GT male grows up to 20 - 25 centimetres and female 14 - 16 centimetres.

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In my experience males can be picky about females. I have a young male that has killed 3 females and spawned with one of the ones he killed.
Yet his dad has gotten along fine with whatever females I place with him. He has never killed anyone. The females in his case are more of a problem.

Keep a very close eye on them and keep a divider handy. Try to make spaces only the female can fit into.
Also be aware that raising the temp will make aggression much worse. It might help spark spawning with a cooler water change, but I’d wait till the female looks ready before attempting to push spawning.
 
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I agree with MrsE88, with many cichlids, spawning in triggered by seasonal events. Some times the cooler and lower pH waters of the rainy season signal spawning, or sometimes water warming mimicking the dry season does does for others, it depends on the species of cichlids.
To help spur spawning in some species after seeing the breeding tubes drop, I would use collected rain water (lower in pH than my tap water) let it come to room temp (slightly lower than my tanks) and do a large water change using it mixed with tap.
A dropped spawning tube is often very obvious, below a female Chuco her tube dropped

And if you are serious about keeping males and females together, the divider mentioned above is used commonly by pro cichlid breeders to keep females alive. Even after spawning, it is not out of the ordinary for males to kill females. ( it also occasionally happens the other way too, where a female will kill males, I've had this happen with Vieja, and Tomocichla).
So having a space only the female can fit thru is of paramount importance when keeping males and females in the same tank.
 
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The measurements of the male is 14 centimetres and the new “female” is about half his size. So they have a bit grow, if i read a GT male grows up to 20 - 25 centimetres and female 14 - 16 centimetres.
Those sizes are about right, typically. Males can get larger, 28-30 cm, but 30 is exceptional, not what most people will see.

Imo I wouldn't try to hurry them into breeding. The ideal, and it does happen with GTs, is to have a bonded and compatible pair. There's a learning curve for them with breeding (like most SA cichlids), the first spawns may not be successful and it can take a few tries to get it right. Imo not trying to hurry them into breeding, but letting them go at their own pace, gives them a better chance at maturing and working things out, ideally it allows more of a bond to develop before dealing with fry. Nothing's better imo than seeing a cooperative pair, female in a cave tending eggs or newly hatched fry, male outside standing guard, and later the pair both shepherding fry around the tank.

That's the ideal, but it often doesn't work that way. Once they start breeding, a pair is going to do what it's going to do. Imo it means be ready to improvise, perhaps using a divider. What some do is make a hole in the divider that allows the smaller female to pass through but not the male-- as Duane mentioned. Some remove the male after spawning, provide multiple females, target fish, there are different approaches.

Breeding pairs of GTs (and a lot of other SA species) can be like marriages. Some are compatible and (relatively) peaceful, some fuss and argue but they make it work, some GT males are wife beaters. It means there's not one guaranteed formula that is always necessary or always works.
 
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Breeding pairs of GTs (and a lot of other SA species) can be like marriages. Some are compatible and (relatively) peaceful, some fuss and argue but they make it work, some GT males are wife beaters. It means there's not one guaranteed formula that is always necessary or always works.
I agree, and just putting just a male and female together, without the normal cichlid selection rituals, often lead to a shaky marriage, that falls apart soon after eggs are put down. With a dead female, and eaten eggs.
But giving the male (and female) options to ritually select from a group makes for a much stronger and perhaps longer lasting pair bond, that continues after the first spawning, and spawning to spawning thereafter.
For any serious cichlid keeper, I recommend readig
The Cichlid Fishes, Nature's Grand Experiment in Evolution by George Barlow.
 
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I agree, and just putting just a male and female together, without the normal cichlid selection rituals, often lead to a shaky marriage, that falls apart soon after eggs are put down. With a dead female, and eaten eggs.
But giving the male (and female) options to ritually select from a group makes for a much stronger and perhaps longer lasting pair bond, that continues after the first spawning, and spawning to spawning thereafter.
For any serious cichlid keeper, I recommend readig
The Cichlid Fishes, Nature's Grand Experiment in Evolution by George Barlow.
Yes, agree. There's a natural process, courting, site selection, nest building, etc., not only in cichlids, but also birds and other animals. Getting it to work in a tank-- under, to be honest, adverse circumstances for many species, more so in some tanks than others-- can be a roll of the dice, might work, maybe not. Especially when you put a random male and female together. Some species, or individuals, are more amenable to it than others.

If you keep some species long enough, tinker with them enough, pay enough attention to body language and behavior, you can develop a feel for it, a sense that a pair-- or trio or group-- has potential. Or develop a feel for the right adjustments to make. Sometimes I get it right. :)

It's rewarding when you do.
 
Males have a much more profound orange ring around their posterior fin, females should lack vibrant color on the tip of their posterior fin. Per say, local fish guru :thumbsup:. Not sure if it’s valid, but, he’s usually on top of his fish knowledge!
 
Can anyone pls tell me it's gender
 

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