Green Terror Questions

[cacichlids]

Jeff Rapps does have some F1 fry from a wild caught True Green Terror pair. I might got with that but I dunno because I really like the bright orange on the gold saums. I'm gonna sit on that one, I got another questions though.

I'm probably going to go with 10 fry in hopes of a breeding pair. Should I get the fry from different stores, so that hopefully I get a pair from different batches of fish, or should I just get the fish all from the same batch? I've never had a pair of cichlids and don't want to inbreed if its bad.

Andinoacara Stalsbergi (True GT that Rapps is selling) are smaller in size and supposedly more aggressive than the regular gold/silver saum you see at pet stores. They also grow faster. They are two different fish even tho both are called Green Terrors.

Here's an easy way to tell em apart

 

[seedubs1]

Yup.....Scale patterns are reversed.

 

[CapitalGT]

About you're inbreeding question, it really comes down to what you prefer. I'm not a fan of insane. So for my GTs, I usually take my time searching for a partner from a totally different batch / bloodline / area. Inbreeding fish is acceptable due to the lack of defects reported but like any other animal, it diminishes the gene pool quality.

 

[cichlidsickness]

I am familiar with the difference between the looks of the two fish, I just didn't know the True GT was more aggressive until I got some feedback on this thread. I think I'm going to go with a gold saum since they are bigger and the color looks more vivid. Hopefully I'm left with a more aggressive gold saum GT when I get the dominate one, or hopefully two, out of the 10 I'll be getting.

As for the inbreeding question I had, I guess I really just wanted to know if the fish would be easier to pair off if I got some from a different gene pool. I'm not really interested in keeping or selling any of the fry if they do decide to mate, I just want a male and female GT that are compatible with each other.

 

[Gatorxxx420]

Andinoacara Stalsbergi (True GT that Rapps is selling) are smaller in size and supposedly more aggressive than the regular gold/silver saum you see at pet stores. They also grow faster. They are two different fish even tho both are called Green Terrors.

Here's an easy way to tell em apart

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So it's like Festae and Urophthalmus sharing the Red Terror name?

 

[cichlidsickness]

Yea it's pretty much the same, but the True GT and the gold/silver saum GT are at least very closely related, whereas the Mayan/Urophthalmus and the Festae are not so closely related. The true GT's and the gold/silver saum are native to the same area's, where the Mayan is from Central America, and the Fesate is from South America.

 

[alexanian]

I am familiar with the difference between the looks of the two fish, I just didn't know the True GT was more aggressive until I got some feedback on this thread. I think I'm going to go with a gold saum since they are bigger and the color looks more vivid. Hopefully I'm left with a more aggressive gold saum GT when I get the dominate one, or hopefully two, out of the 10 I'll be getting.

As for the inbreeding question I had, I guess I really just wanted to know if the fish would be easier to pair off if I got some from a different gene pool. I'm not really interested in keeping or selling any of the fry if they do decide to mate, I just want a male and female GT that are compatible with each other.

The fish will pair off regardless if they're from the same batch or not. The only difference is that with inbreeding u have a high probability of bad quality fish. Of course it takes generations of inbreeding to get defective offspring, I don't think it'll happen by inbreeding a high quality F1's. Down the line if ur planing on breeding the offspring of ur pair and have a breeding operation set up then u should get them from different batches. Although u never know u may get 5 from one batch and 5 from another batch and the fish might still choose to pair off with the female of the same batch, however it does increase ur chances of getting a breeding pair that is not related.