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You've made things a little more difficult for us than it should be really. Your other thread, "fish for pond" partially addresses some of the issues which are also pertinent to this thread. It would have been better to keep it all under one thread!!

You stated one very important fact in that other thread, and it speaks volumes to me. You said that no one in Saudi has ponds, they're just not a done thing. There's a very very good reason for this...summer temperatures!

They are brutally hot in Saudi, having a pond is crazy when you think about it. You are currently trying to deal with problems that lots of other people have probably already tried and failed with, hence the lack of ponds over there!!

And then on the flip side, even though your winters are relatively mild, the night time temps are uncomfortably too low for most tropical fish. These are the problems you are faced with.

In summer I suspect your pond needs cooling, with lots of added water agitation too to compensate for lack of oxygen levels. And in winter it needs a heat source.

The ideal solution would be to have your pond in an enclosed room, and actually control the room temps. Air conditioning would probably be the best way to achieve this though what your energy costs are like over there I don't know. You'd have to have it on constant cool during the summer, and warmer during the winter.

Or maybe you need to give up on the pond and just go the aquarium route, which you already have to a degree.
I don’t think the heat is a factor, I lived in Phoenix for 10 years and the summers there are 110-115 and occasionally 120+ from June -October and it doesn’t cool off at night. It will be 105 at midnight and there’s lots of ponds in Phoenix. My friend has a pond maintenance company. Winters cool off quite a bit down to around 60/40f. But people don’t keep tropicals in their ponds. IMO the winters are the issue with keeping warmer climate fish in ponds and he’d be better off getting colder water fish or building a climate controlled building over the pond
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I don’t think the heat is a factor, I lived in Phoenix for 10 years and the summers there are 110-115 and occasionally 120+ from June -October and it doesn’t cool off at night. It will be 105 at midnight and there’s lots of ponds in Phoenix. My friend has a pond maintenance company. Winters cool off quite a bit down to around 60/40f. But people don’t keep tropicals in their ponds. IMO the winters are the issue with keeping warmer climate fish in ponds and he’d be better off getting colder water fish or building a climate controlled building over the pond
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Yeah my thoughts exactly
 
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You are on the right track! A climate controlled room for the pond sounds to me like your best solution. Not an inexpensive solution for sure. Don't forget to consider humidity control for the room, particularly if it will be connected to the living area of the house.
 
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You are on the right track! A climate controlled room for the pond sounds to me like your best solution. Not an inexpensive solution for sure. Don't forget to consider humidity control for the room, particularly if it will be connected to the living area of the house.
thanks, i will control humidity for sure. it won't be connected to the living room since my pond is on a rooftop which is completely separated from the rest of the house
 
If you build a big enough room, you can get more tanks ... and more.
my pond is on a rooftop (surprise), so i can only make a room big enough for the pond, or my mom will kill me!
 
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I’m honestly amazed your parents allow you to do all of this. I would again reiterate I think you should just do cold water fish. A lot of North American fish can withstand cold winters and hot summers. But hey, keep ignoring us and doing whatever you want. Eventually though people are going to stop responding to these threads. I really think you need to take more time to consider the work and cost associated with these projects. If you do that I firmly believe you will realize these projects are far too advanced, costly, and not for someone as young as you are.
 
I’m honestly amazed your parents allow you to do all of this. I would again reiterate I think you should just do cold water fish. A lot of North American fish can withstand cold winters and hot summers. But hey, keep ignoring us and doing whatever you want. Eventually though people are going to stop responding to these threads. I really think you need to take more time to consider the work and cost associated with these projects. If you do that I firmly believe you will realize these projects are far too advanced, costly, and not for someone as young as you are.
first of all i am not ignoring you guys, the reason i bought the 1700 gallon pond was because you guys told me a 125 gallon tank won't be enough for my ID sharks. So you get the point. Second, i would love to hear some cool cold water speciec, since i was never into them
 
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first of all i am not ignoring you guys, the reason i bought the 1700 gallon pond was because you guys told me a 125 gallon tank won't be enough for my ID sharks. So you get the point. Second, i would love to hear some cool cold water speciec, since i was never into them
It’s great you have upgraded your aquarium choice to a pond to fit the fish you chose 🙏

What what I observe the choice of fish you are looking for seem to be predatory. Koi would then be out of question. I personally live in the tropics so what I’m listing may be wrong, but here are the fish that can live in cold water:

- gars
- pike
- musky
- bowfin
- sturgeon
- certain eel species
- smallmouth bass


Gars are however a tropical species and will not survive freezing temperatures. But if I am not mistaken are able to live in colder waters…
I also have not taken into consideration that your country has large temperature range. Sturgeons also able to live comfortably in cold waters. However you live in Saudi, so when summer comes it won’t thrive either.
 
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