For those who dont know Jeff rapps is expecting some cichla Orinocensis to hit today 5/16/2009! I will be running a group buy depending on price and size I may or may not purchase some, none the less I will still hold a group buy for the socal guys theres other fish on TUIC list that appeals to me so I will be ordering some fish too. Just maybe not cichla! I will front the shipping cost; all who are involved should/will reimburse me their share of the shipment cost upon receiving fish from me! I will not hold fish for no one so please accommodate for Saturday May the 23rd pick up! We could meet @ a lfs here in socal we can decide that by a majority vote, if anyone is interested please take a look at TUIC list @ http://www.tangledupincichlids.com/stock.html , and for those whom are ordering please contact Jeff rapps @ bigguapote1@verizon.net and let him know you are participating in the socal group buy for May the 23rd constructed by Famous323 on mfk! Shipping will be about $80-90 split between the group buyers!