grouper/ trigger

[rayman45]

I don't know bro, You gotta see mine. His behavior is nothing of that needing Salt ? for now at least.

Hyper, active, alert, eats like a pig. As for eventually requiring salt, perhaps. But till then this guy seems to be fine in pure fresh. To even take it up a notch I removed any trace of Salt in my tank. Normally before I got the grouper I've always added salt to my tank just for preventative measures. It actually helps alot since I have a school of ATF's that is constantly slashing at eachother. It helps the healing process a whole lot quicker. I've just always been a fan of adding a bit of salt in my freshwater tanks. Not enough to make it brackish or even close. Everyone's seen pix's of the fish I keep.

Anyways, when I do my water top offs I would normally add the required salt. A few weeks ago I totally removed 50% of my water. Since then I've done my water top off's on a regular basis without adding any salt.

The grouper behaves and acts the same way. No loss of appetite , continuesly active and alert.

Do I have crush coral in my tank - NO
Do I have salt - NO
Is my tank full fresh - YES

I seriously believe the key is keeping your PH at a stable level. Close to 8.0 preferbly. By doing a semi-auto water change every other day (100+ gallons) helps maintain the stability of my water chemistry, in addition to having a pretty big water volume.

Now, I know people will say.......8.0 ? then you will be limited to the fish's you can keep. I have two TIGS in my tank and they are fine. I've grown one since he was 6" or so and is now 12".

For anyone willing to try a FreshWater BB Grouper, prepare to have to deal w/the unexpected. This is not a for everyone. Believe me, this is my second attempt. The first one I lost on the 2nd day (48hrs). This was like last year sometime. I believe it was during the first shipment.

I wanted to KILL!........lol....... but it was my fault and my mistakes. I made adjustments
and I wanted to try again. To date all is well. It's really something to see a Grouper swimming in your freshwater tank. So knock on wood.

I'm going to make a believer out of you......LOL......

 

[ultimatejay]

I don't know bro, You gotta see mine. His behavior is nothing of that needing Salt ? for now at least.

Hyper, active, alert, eats like a pig. As for eventually requiring salt, perhaps. But till then this guy seems to be fine in pure fresh. To even take it up a notch I removed any trace of Salt in my tank. Normally before I got the grouper I've always added salt to my tank just for preventative measures. It actually helps alot since I have a school of ATF's that is constantly slashing at eachother. It helps the healing process a whole lot quicker. I've just always been a fan of adding a bit of salt in my freshwater tanks. Not enough to make it brackish or even close. Everyone's seen pix's of the fish I keep.

Anyways, when I do my water top offs I would normally add the required salt. A few weeks ago I totally removed 50% of my water. Since then I've done my water top off's on a regular basis without adding any salt.

The grouper behaves and acts the same way. No loss of appetite , continuesly active and alert.

Do I have crush coral in my tank - NO
Do I have salt - NO
Is my tank full fresh - YES

I seriously believe the key is keeping your PH at a stable level. Close to 8.0 preferbly. By doing a semi-auto water change every other day (100+ gallons) helps maintain the stability of my water chemistry, in addition to having a pretty big water volume.

Now, I know people will say.......8.0 ? then you will be limited to the fish's you can keep. I have two TIGS in my tank and they are fine. I've grown one since he was 6" or so and is now 12".

For anyone willing to try a FreshWater BB Grouper, prepare to have to deal w/the unexpected. This is not a for everyone. Believe me, this is my second attempt. The first one I lost on the 2nd day (48hrs). This was like last year sometime. I believe it was during the first shipment.

I wanted to KILL!........lol....... but it was my fault and my mistakes. I made adjustments
and I wanted to try again. To date all is well. It's really something to see a Grouper swimming in your freshwater tank. So knock on wood.

I'm going to make a believer out of you......LOL......

Joey, I wish you the best of luck and hope your fish lasts a long long time. I just want to give people an insight on what I have experienced and what they need to know before buying one of these fish. I am very scheptical because I have never seen a full grown or even a semi adult bumblebee grouper in full freshwater. I have seen some around 12-20", but that is still a baby. My friend's bumblebee grouper was not eating and was looking bad, so he immediately dumped his fish from full fresh to full saltwater. Note: He did not slowly acclimate it to saltwater, he dumped the fish in full saltwater and right away the fish did a complete turn around. If this was a full freshwater species, then there is no way you could do that. I hope that all the people who have theirs in freshwater right now will have no problems and that they will live long happy lives, but if they stop eating and develop sores and looking bad- save them and move them to saltwater.

 

[R1_Ridah]

Joey, I wish you the best of luck and hope your fish lasts a long long time. I just want to give people an insight on what I have experienced and what they need to know before buying one of these fish. I am very scheptical because I have never seen a full grown or even a semi adult bumblebee grouper in full freshwater. I have seen some around 12-20", but that is still a baby. My friend's bumblebee grouper was not eating and was looking bad, so he immediately dumped his fish from full fresh to full saltwater. Note: He did not slowly acclimate it to saltwater, he dumped the fish in full saltwater and right away the fish did a complete turn around. If this was a full freshwater species, then there is no way you could do that. I hope that all the people who have theirs in freshwater right now will have no problems and that they will live long happy lives, but if they stop eating and develop sores and looking bad- save them and move them to saltwater.

I agree with you Jay that everyone should be given the insight to this fish as it does not come cheap. That's why I started a thread a while back trying to get people who ownes them to speak up and add thier 2 cents ? Discuss water parameters, setup , etc.... but no one wanted to get involved. People should post experience both GOOD & BAD, regardless. I think the best part of this hobby is to learn from one another, not keep secrects.

I think your friend, who's my friend also was smart to take action as he did to keep the guy alive. That's an experience hobbyist who knew what action to take and not ariad to take it. It's just that this whole BB GROUPER is mind boggling.... and sparks up debate. However, as long as it is a positive debate and both parties get educated than it's all good.

You have to come over with our mutual friend and we'll have some beers & BBQ and debate the whole issue.......... .......

 

[ultimatejay]

I agree with you Jay that everyone should be given the insight to this fish as it does not come cheap. That's why I started a thread a while back trying to get people who ownes them to speak up and add thier 2 cents ? Discuss water parameters, setup , etc.... but no one wanted to get involved. People should post experience both GOOD & BAD, regardless. I think the best part of this hobby is to learn from one another, not keep secrects.

I think your friend, who's my friend also was smart to take action as he did to keep the guy alive. That's an experience hobbyist who knew what action to take and not ariad to take it. It's just that this whole BB GROUPER is mind boggling.... and sparks up debate. However, as long as it is a positive debate and both parties get educated than it's all good.

You have to come over with our mutual friend and we'll have some beers & BBQ and debate the whole issue.......... .......

Sounds like a plan. I want to come over and check your awesome tank anyways. Late.